Platinum Plus Contests

[Matt Brouse]

In case you didn't get the e-mail.


"Platinum Plus Contests

Platinum Plus contests are back!!



Starting in 2008, NAS and ASC will no longer offer the Pro-Am contests. The only way for an athlete to get his "Pro-Card" is via the Platinum Plus contests. This contest must have the approval of the NAS/ASC Home Office. Only Promoters with a proven history of hosting quality contests may host a Platinum Plus contest. The promoters of Platinum Plus shows are decision of NAS Home Office and ASC reps, along with the agreement of the State Chair.

There will be a maximum of 6 Platinum Plus Contest in the year 2008 with a 231 (105 kilo) and an open (hw-above 231) class. The Platinum Plus contests winners will earn his Pro card (A total of four 105 kilo and four open in 2008). The Platinum Plus contests for open (HW) will be HI (March), IA (June), and SC (September). The IA contest will also be a wildcard, whereas the winner will not only receive his Pro Card, but will also get an automatic invite to the ASC National Championships. The Platinum Plus contests for the 105k division will be NJ (June), IN (July), and UT (September). The NJ contest will also be a wildcard, whereas the winner will not only receive his 105k Pro Card, but will also get an automatic invite to the 105k ASC National Championships. The fourth card for both divisions will be awarded to the winners of the 2008 NAS Inc. National Champion. All contests dates and locations are subject to change.

These winners of the Platinum Plus contests can choose to stay an amateur or choose to become a pro. Once a heavyweight or lightweight competitor wins more than one Platinum Plus Level show in a year, he must compete at the professional level. Once you compete as a pro, you must remain a professional competitor. If you earn your pro status as a lightweight or a heavyweight, and you later desire to compete as one of the other, you must qualify at a Platinum Plus contest only in that division in order to seek a dual pro-card. Only with a one-year layoff from pro competition can a competitor go back to his/her amateur status. Four finishers will qualify to compete at the NASMC. If the winner chooses to turn professional, then the second through fifth place finishers will qualify for NASMC. The weights and equipment used in a Platinum Plus Contest are highly suggested to be equal to the weights used in a pro-level contest. A Contest can be both, a State Championship and a Platinum Plus Level Contest."

[Charles Bean]

Looks like I'm headed to Utah in September. ;)

[Brandon Campbell]

will i be ready for HI in march??? i hope so heheheh

[Scott Markowitz]

No offense to any Hawaiians here, but wtf? With only 4 shots (so far) at a pro card in a year, why have one in a place that most people can't afford to go? Sure it may be a great contest in a great location, but if the field is limited that much, are we really going to have the best guy getting a card? :confused:

PS: No, it doesn't directly affect me in any way. My best shot at ever getting a pro card is learning to be a pickpocket or a forger.

[ADAMBAUER]

Whole new reason to harder than ever for Iowa!!!

[Ryan Brown]

No offense to any Hawaiians here, but wtf? With only 4 shots (so far) at a pro card in a year, why have one in a place that most people can't afford to go? Sure it may be a great contest in a great location, but if the field is limited that much, are we really going to have the best guy getting a card? :confused:

PS: No, it doesn't directly affect me in any way. My best shot at ever getting a pro card is learning to be a pickpocket or a forger.

Scott, HI is I believe the longest running strongman contest in the United States. Like 17 years or something. It has been a pro-am for a few years now and somewhat surprisingly gets very good attendance from some of the top HW am competitors. It is pretty expensive though. I've looked into going for a number of years now, but never felt like pulling the trigger on it. I've heard they run a great contest though. The vast majority of the competitors are from the mainland...lol

[Matthew White]

SCOTT!!! What is up with that avatar bro, you should copy and paste your beard on that thing. ;) Yeah, its all good to me. I'm nowhere close to winning anything. So I'll worry about it when I get there.

[Joshua Davis]

SCOTT!!! What is up with that avatar bro, you should copy and paste your beard on that thing. ;)
Everytime I see that avatar I think it's a sculpture made out of poo. Then I see the gator head. That's why I think it should be Scott's avatar. It's funny cause I said he looks like poo!

[MarshallWhite]

No offense to any Hawaiians here, but wtf? With only 4 shots (so far) at a pro card in a year, why have one in a place that most people can't afford to go? Sure it may be a great contest in a great location, but if the field is limited that much, are we really going to have the best guy getting a card? :confused:

PS: No, it doesn't directly affect me in any way. My best shot at ever getting a pro card is learning to be a pickpocket or a forger.
Oddly enough when I went to HI it was one of the cheapest tickets I've ever bought...plus one of the best shows I've ever done....then again Jesse bought me the ticket....hmmmmmmm....oh well if you can this show would be the one to spend money on.

[MarshallWhite]

Does this mean no more pro/ams at all....I thought the point of a pro/am was to see how a competitor faired against pros to determine if he is good enough to join the pro ranks....I'm afraid this will turn out some sub-par pros if there is a show that only a handful of guys show up to.

[D.J. Satterfield]

That is correct, there will no longer be Pro-Ams, Platinum Plus will be replacing them.

[Adam Keep]

Does this mean no more pro/ams at all....I thought the point of a pro/am was to see how a competitor faired against pros to determine if he is good enough to join the pro ranks....I'm afraid this will turn out some sub-par pros if there is a show that only a handful of guys show up to.

I'm not sure, but I think the reasoning was to have more pro only shows and do them up a little bigger that in previous years. I mean lets face it, most pro/ams were in parks or something like that. Not that I don't like the contests in the parks and such because I do, but it would be nice to see a little more production value to our contests to maybe get more attendance or something.

[Kevin McNease]

That's too bad. I thought pro/am's were awesome; getting to compete and hang out along side the best is the country was great. I'm glad I did my fair share in '06 and '07.

Kevin

[Ryan Brown]

Does this mean no more pro/ams at all....I thought the point of a pro/am was to see how a competitor faired against pros to determine if he is good enough to join the pro ranks....I'm afraid this will turn out some sub-par pros if there is a show that only a handful of guys show up to.

Marshall, whether or not pros are there has never had any bearing on whether someone goes pro or not. Sometimes the guys that have gone pro have beaten some of the pros; sometimes they have not. All you have ever had to do is beat all of the ams at the contest.

The pro-ams were not well attended by pros and it was a financial burden on promoters to come up with the prize money for only a few. Most pro ams only had a very few pros. There were of course exceptions.

The quality should be very good coming out of these contests. People wanting a pro card are coming to compete against the ams. Given that there are only 3 available cards other than Nats (3 hw and 3 lw) I am certain they will be very well attended. Whether or not pros are invited to them doesn't impact anything IMO.

[Ryan Rhodes]

No offense to any Hawaiians here, but wtf? With only 4 shots (so far) at a pro card in a year, why have one in a place that most people can't afford to go? Sure it may be a great contest in a great location, but if the field is limited that much, are we really going to have the best guy getting a card? :confused:

PS: No, it doesn't directly affect me in any way. My best shot at ever getting a pro card is learning to be a pickpocket or a forger.


Word. I was going to say the same thing. CA seems like a more sensible location.

[D.J. Satterfield]

Good points Ryan Brown.

From a promoters standpoint, it didn't make sense to have a Pro-Am as the overall Pro attendance was poor and you had to come up with prize money, etc. With the Platinum Plus shows, I think you will have great attendance as everyone knows you have only 3 chances to get your Pro card.
Also, these shows weren't just given to anyone. These shows had to have some pretty good competitor attendance numbers and quality competitors to receive one.
Though I do also agree it was nice to compete alongside the Pros, I believe these will be good for things as I believe they will be heavily attended due to the fact there won't be a ton of shows to get your Pro card at like some years in the past.

[Matt Brouse]

That seems a decent reasoning DJ. It just seemed a natural step to have to line up next to the future competition and see if you can muster it...

[Reggie Brown]

If anyone has more info on the HI show, that would be great. I looked at a couple places but couldn't find anything. I do realize that it's 4 months away so I'm not expecting anything in stone.

I would like to go, but it needs to be planned now so we all can get the cost down. TIA

Reggie

[D.J. Satterfield]

Reggie,
I would email Dione at NAS, she would most likely have any info available.

[PeteKonradt]

This idea just gives Pro's fewer opportunities to compete and get paid. Getting paid is just fuel for training and travel, not much if any goes into our pockets. Small contests give Pro's a chance to compete and gain experience without spending a lot on travel expenses. IE Tony Scrivens contest about an hour drive for me. There is also a better chance of a payday for lower level Pro’s because a lot of the elite Pro's don't bother with the smaller contests.

GIVE ME AN AMEN BROTHER!!!!!

[Ryan Brown]

This idea just gives Pro's fewer opportunities to compete and get paid. Getting paid is just fuel for training and travel, not much if any goes into our pockets. Small contests give Pro's a chance to compete and gain experience without spending a lot on travel expenses. IE Tony Scrivens contest about an hour drive for me. There is also a better chance of a payday for lower level Pro’s because a lot of the elite Pro's don't bother with the smaller contests.

GIVE ME AN AMEN BROTHER!!!!!


Pete, I agree; you should know that this move doesn't do anything to prevent a promoter like Tony from still having a small pro contest with prize money. That is fine and encouraged as I understand it. It's just that there is a divorce between the giving of a pro card and the small pro shows. For instance, until it became obvious that there would be some potential conflicts with pro qualifiers, the KS show was planning to have a separate pro division for lws--just the kind of contest you are talking about.

This shouldn't limit the number of pro shows necessarily.

AMEN!!

[Jay Hagadorn]

This idea just gives Pro's fewer opportunities to compete and get paid. Getting paid is just fuel for training and travel, not much if any goes into our pockets. Small contests give Pro's a chance to compete and gain experience without spending a lot on travel expenses. IE Tony Scrivens contest about an hour drive for me. There is also a better chance of a payday for lower level Pro’s because a lot of the elite Pro's don't bother with the smaller contests.

GIVE ME AN AMEN BROTHER!!!!!
I have a feeling alot of other pros, regardless of what level you all are at would agree!

[Scott Tully]

I see the points all around, We were very excited to have a LW pro class with Monsters this year, unfortunatey unbeknowst to us the qualifers were then all planned smack dab around it. Also last year we offered 5500$ in prize money we had 6 in each class show up, thats not a great turnout at all. Also I do agree on the pro qualifier in HI being a bad idea, its expensive and never gets a great turnout, but is a cool location.

ST

[james rude]

i just checked the ticket prices for march, and it's already $750 bucks! ha!

i guess that means there are 2 heavyweight shows for me and 98% of the rest of us.

[Scott Tully]

i just checked the ticket prices for march, and it's already $750 bucks! ha!

i guess that means there are 2 heavyweight shows for me and 98% of the rest of us.


James,

It was over 800 from Wichita and Kansas City, not cool, lol. factor in hotel and if you have a GF wife, 2K for a trip.

ST

[Reggie Brown]

James,

It was over 800 from Wichita and Kansas City, not cool, lol. factor in hotel and if you have a GF wife, 2K for a trip.

ST


My gf found some tickets earlier. From san diego to honolulu, $340 per person round trip. Hawaiianair.com I think she said. Hope that helps.

Reggie

[Ryan Brown]

James,

It was over 800 from Wichita and Kansas City, not cool, lol. factor in hotel and if you have a GF wife, 2K for a trip.

ST

about the same from Nashville Scott and that's on ATA. On a real airline it is about 1200.

[Kristin Rhodes]

Any idea of the date?

[Chad Robison]

I don't necessarily disagree with the Platinum Plus in Hawaii, but we have to know about this contest long in advance, maybe if the Hawaii show had the South Carolina date in september it would be more reasonable, I was finding tickets between $800 and $850 from here in Indianapolis. This just allows very few AMs from the west coast the chance to go and beat up on maybe a couple competitors, I AM NOT bashing anyone imparticular so please everyone from the west coast don't jump on me here but, I just don't understand the timing of this release as a Plat Plus, is the card really going to be "earned" in Hawaii, I personally think not, like I said before, I am not going after anyone individually nor am I trying to throw a fit about it, this is just my opinion. I will see alot of you in Iowa!! Good luck everyone with their training!

Chad Robison

[Jay Hagadorn]

I don't necessarily disagree with the Platinum Plus in Hawaii, but we have to know about this contest long in advance, maybe if the Hawaii show had the South Carolina date in september it would be more reasonable, I was finding tickets between $800 and $850 from here in Indianapolis. This just allows very few AMs from the west coast the chance to go and beat up on maybe a couple competitors, I AM NOT bashing anyone imparticular so please everyone from the west coast don't jump on me here but, I just don't understand the timing of this release as a Plat Plus, is the card really going to be "earned" in Hawaii, I personally think not, like I said before, I am not going after anyone individually nor am I trying to throw a fit about it, this is just my opinion. I will see alot of you in Iowa!! Good luck everyone with their training!

Chad Robison

Some of the best pros in the US have won their card in Hawaii...

[Tom Mutaffis]

I am sure everyone will have their opportunity to make it to one of these contests, and if not then there is Nationals - and this will make for a very exciting event that will most likely have some of the best athletes we have seen... especially with the way the sport has been progressing.

Hopefully there will be Pro's coming out to compete regardless, and maybe even some where there is a Pro class along side the LW's (like South Atlantic 2006).

Wish there were a couple more opportunities but as long as there are good, heavy platinum contests that draw large fields of competitors I am happy.

[Matthew White]

Well, no matter what happens, first chance I get to compete, at anything, no matter what level, I'm going to give it 110%, no matter who else is there, so it doesn't really matter to me what they call the contest, call it "big fluffy wussbot contest", as long as I do my best, that's what matters.

[barabas47]

I think the seperation is going to help the LW pros. From what I have heard it is very hard to raise money for LW pros and combining LWs with HW pros at shows, give us more exposure and opportunity.
It was still always fun to go to Pro-Ams and see the up and comers, but the turn out for us LW's did not look too hot this year.

[Eric Todd]

For me it is all about getting a real cool trophy, no matter how I perform.
ET

[Scott Tully]

this is true Jay, but they also competed against 6-8 guys at the meet, they would have probably won with 30, so it dont matter, but this definatley limits the competititors, thats not what its all about, Im not saying this to hurt strongman, Crap, Ive supported this sport as much as anyone, but this sucks, and this is coming from a Pro NAS guy, Ive been a state chair for going on 6 years. I wish the best to whovever goes and gets there card.

ST

[Josh Kamins]

The thing is, if there was a ProAm in Hawaii before now, there was always going to be a pro coming out of that contest regardless if it was ProAm or this Plat. Plus, so its no weaker of a contest than before. Now there are just fewer Other chances to make pro...

[Chris Hickson]

I am gonna try to go to Iowa strongest man (the IA platinum plus).

[Chad Robison]

Thats what I was trying to get away from Jay...I am not attacking anything to do with that contest, I dont know you at all but it seems like negative sarcasm directed toward myself?

Chad Robison

[rob meulenberg]

The thing is, if there was a ProAm in Hawaii before now, there was always going to be a pro coming out of that contest regardless if it was ProAm or this Plat. Plus, so its no weaker of a contest than before. Now there are just fewer Other chances to make pro...

Exactly! Since NAS began the Pro-Am concept in 2005, there was a Pro-Am in Hawaii in 2005 and 2006. Winners of those contests? Kevin Nee and Marshall White. When Kevin won in 2005 he did not have very many competitors if I recall (I mean in number; NOT quality). I think both Kevin and M-Dub have proved they are very good pros!

I would bet between the crop of great Ams we have here in CA along with a handful of other great Ams on the West Coast that whoever wins Hawaii will be very deserving.

Tix are only $300 round trip from NorCal, so since it is a Pro show as well, I may try to convince the wife that it is a good idea for me to go to both Hawaii and South Carolina in consecutive weeks! lol

[brianwalsh]

when is the central usa in indiana? it says june but i was wondering if there was any other info out there about that show

[Zach Snyder]

when is the central usa in indiana? it says june but i was wondering if there was any other info out there about that show

http://www.marunde-muscle.com/forum/showthread.php?p=158868#post158868

[Jay Hagadorn]

this is true Jay, but they also competed against 6-8 guys at the meet, they would have probably won with 30, so it dont matter, but this definatley limits the competititors, thats not what its all about, Im not saying this to hurt strongman, Crap, Ive supported this sport as much as anyone, but this sucks, and this is coming from a Pro NAS guy, Ive been a state chair for going on 6 years. I wish the best to whovever goes and gets there card.

ST

I agree with you Scott, I was just trying to point out that the guys that have won their pro cards there are not slouches. You are right though 'bro...

[Chris Dwyer]

when is the central usa in indiana? it says june but i was wondering if there was any other info out there about that show

I think it's July 5th, same day as ILSM.

[Jay Hagadorn]

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is the card really going to be "earned" in Hawaii, I personally think not, like I said before, I am not going after anyone individually nor am I trying to throw a fit about it, this is just my opinion. I will see alot of you in Iowa!! Good luck everyone with their training!

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Some of the best pros in the US have won their card in Hawaii...

Thats what I was trying to get away from Jay...I am not attacking anything to do with that contest, I dont know you at all but it seems like negative sarcasm directed toward myself?

Chad Robison
Gotta love the internet Chad. Sometimes it's hard to tell what someones saying or how they are trying to communicate it. I wasn't trying to direct any negative criticism towards you at all, I was just stating a fact. Off of the way I interpreted your post I was just defending the fact that some good pros have "earned" their pro card there. After reading back through your post I think I see what you are getting at. Apologies for coming off as it seemed, not my intention at all...

[ClayEdgin]

Pro-Am? Platinum Plus? A rose by any other name....

[anton axelsson]

Exactly! Since NAS began the Pro-Am concept in 2005, there was a Pro-Am in Hawaii in 2005 and 2006. Winners of those contests? Kevin Nee and Marshall White. When Kevin won in 2005 he did not have very many competitors if I recall (I mean in number; NOT quality). I think both Kevin and M-Dub have proved they are very good pros!

I would bet between the crop of great Ams we have here in CA along with a handful of other great Ams on the West Coast that whoever wins Hawaii will be very deserving.

Tix are only $300 round trip from NorCal, so since it is a Pro show as well, I may try to convince the wife that it is a good idea for me to go to both Hawaii and South Carolina in consecutive weeks! lol

hay rob can u convince mine 2 please lol

[Chad Robison]

my apologies as well jay, i was having a bad day yesterday and i sort of jump to a conclusion, any show that produced Nee and M-Dub must be a good show, i have been very frustrated lately with my lack of overall performance at NATS and am just looking forward to redeeming myself at the first opportunity...

Chad Robison

[SBaier]

Chad - Glad to hear your interest in coming to Iowa in June. I hope it turns out to be a good show for you!

I will get events finalized soon and posted.

[MarshallWhite]

I understand that these shows are expensive to get to, etc. but this will weed out the ones who don't really want it. I think I speak for most of the pros here when I say I spent COPIOUS amounts of money trying to obtain my pro card!!! I had to give a little to get a lot...pros still pay their own way most of the time but the opportunity to make money is there. My suggestion to anyone unsure of their abilities in a Platinum Plus contest.....Make sure you're good and ready before you go, then spend the money and wreck shop on everyone there and you (and your significant other hopefully) will think the money is well spent.
On a side note....this means that I won't get to screw with Dan at Pro/Ams now and I'll be honest...that was one of my little joys in life! :N:

[Matt Brouse]

That's a good point Marshall. Really make you know your ready to take a shot.

[Ryan Brown]

I understand that these shows are expensive to get to, etc. but this will weed out the ones who don't really want it. I think I speak for most of the pros here when I say I spent COPIOUS amounts of money trying to obtain my pro card!!! I had to give a little to get a lot...pros still pay their own way most of the time but the opportunity to make money is there. My suggestion to anyone unsure of their abilities in a Platinum Plus contest.....Make sure you're good and ready before you go, then spend the money and wreck shop on everyone there and you (and your significant other hopefully) will think the money is well spent.
On a side note....this means that I won't get to screw with Dan at Pro/Ams now and I'll be honest...that was one of my little joys in life! :N:


You are correct Marshall. It is expensive. I really don't want to calculate all the money I've spend on going to strongman contests...lol In 2005 I hit up 5 pro ams and several other contests. Luckily I won 2 of them to make it worth my while. Thank goodness most of the pro-ams are not 3 day contests in CA like the Fit Expo--that thing about drained my account...lol

[Scott Tully]

also for the record there was no show in 07 for hawaii, and also it was stated that plat plus shows would be in places with history of good turnout, that was my point, I think a pro show is great in hawaii, you have the ability to earn prize money back, I think it sucks for the young guys who dont have unlimited resources or mommy and daddy footing the bill, I for one can afford to go if I want, but as Marshal pointed out, Id be one who isnt in contention anyway. Also before i get another PM, email or rep, this isnt a sour grapes thing, I didn't put in for a plat plus, nor did I want to have one.

ST

[Eric Todd]

Wow, sounds like sour grapes to me.
ET

[Scott Tully]

ET your now not getting the corning ware i bought you guys for your wedding.

ST

[Eric Todd]

I was hoping for tupperware anyhow.
ET

[D.J. Satterfield]

Such a bad attitude Scott, it is a wonder how you ever got promoter of the year.

ET-how about a Wok? do you and the misses need one of those?

[Scott Tully]

Such a bad attitude Scott, it is a wonder how you ever got promoter of the year.

ET-how about a Wok? do you and the misses need one of those?

It was state chair of the year, get it right pops, haha.

ST

[Chad Robison]

Chad - Glad to hear your interest in coming to Iowa in June. I hope it turns out to be a good show for you!

I will get events finalized soon and posted.
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Shawn Baier


Shawn I will be there for sure, like I said I have a little extra motivation for this show after my poo like performance at NATS, if you need some help with the events, I would be glad to let you know what would be all around good for me...can we have 4 pressing events and stones...LOL

Chad Robison

[Eric Todd]

I am not Chinese, Gramps.
ET

[SBaier]

HAHA - Funny you should say that... that was the exact format I joked about doing the past couple years for one of my shows. 4 pressing events (max effort... none of that rep crap) and stones!! It might just be crazy enough to work!

[Chris Dwyer]

HAHA - Funny you should say that... that was the exact format I joked about doing the past couple years for one of my shows. 4 pressing events (max effort... none of that rep crap) and stones!! It might just be crazy enough to work!

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but will you also have a 200# weight class at Iowa's Strongest Man? I know the pro card is only for LW/HW, but I jsut wanted to see if you will also be breaking it up into weight classes as well. Thanks!

[Chad Robison]

HAHA - Funny you should say that... that was the exact format I joked about doing the past couple years for one of my shows. 4 pressing events (max effort... none of that rep crap) and stones!! It might just be crazy enough to work!

You and I are on the same page my friend....LOL

Chad Robison

[SBaier]

No, we won't be breaking up the classes this year. We will have the HW (with the winner bringing home a pro-card and a Pro Nationals spot), LW (no pro card) and Masters classes. These classes will all be open... no weight divisions. I am treating the contest as two events Plat Plus/Pro Qualifier spot for HWs (so weights will be appropriate) and Plat level show for LW and Master (similar to last years Iowa... not the same events, but similar in difficulty/weight used compared to other shows).

[Chris Dwyer]

No, we won't be breaking up the classes this year. We will have the HW (with the winner bringing home a pro-card and a Pro Nationals spot), LW (no pro card) and Masters classes. These classes will all be open... no weight divisions. I am treating the contest as two events Plat Plus/Pro Qualifier spot for HWs (so weights will be appropriate) and Plat level show for LW and Master (similar to last years Iowa... not the same events, but similar in difficulty/weight used compared to other shows).

Thank you!

[Dan Harrison]

I understand that these shows are expensive to get to, etc. but this will weed out the ones who don't really want it. I think I speak for most of the pros here when I say I spent COPIOUS amounts of money trying to obtain my pro card!!! I had to give a little to get a lot...pros still pay their own way most of the time but the opportunity to make money is there. My suggestion to anyone unsure of their abilities in a Platinum Plus contest.....Make sure you're good and ready before you go, then spend the money and wreck shop on everyone there and you (and your significant other hopefully) will think the money is well spent.
On a side note....this means that I won't get to screw with Dan at Pro/Ams now and I'll be honest...that was one of my little joys in life! :N:

When I go pro, (and I WILL), I'm gonna make sure when we're traveling together that I bunk with you every night. You'll get brain damage from my horrid sewer farts and then... ASS-HAT TIME. I'll be there soon enough.

[Dan Harrison]

i just checked the ticket prices for march, and it's already $750 bucks! ha!

i guess that means there are 2 heavyweight shows for me and 98% of the rest of us.

Just got my ticket for 360 bucks.

[Jay Hagadorn]

Just got my ticket for 360 bucks.

You my friend, are a punk! JOK...wish I lived on the west coast so I could get a cheap ticket. Have they posted the entry for this already?