UFC 81 - Lesnar vs Mir

[Jonathan Macfarlane]

Most people can't have a rational discussion about this fight, I'd think everyone here can. Brock is talking himself up, Mir is saying bring it on.

Discuss.

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[Chris Tobin]

Mir wins by submission.

[Matt Schumann]

I am really looking forward to this fight. I was really bummed out in June because i wanted to see lesnar fight but it was scheduled when i was away in HI.

I honestly do not know how he will do in the UFC. From the looks of it I can see why he would be successful and on the other hand with his lack of experience in MMA i can see him losing and thats it!

Anyways I would like to remind everyone that There will be a show on tonight on spike tv ar 11pm eastern about lesnar and his training. looking forward to it

[Jonathan Macfarlane]

An animated predicition of the fight... pretty funny.

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[Alex Klotz]

Brock was the NCAA champion 8 years ago I believe. Since then he's been a professional wrestler, which although requires great physical condition, is not a test of his fighting abilities. He has had one MMA fight, against a guy with a losing record. I don't think being the wrestling champion 8 years ago puts you on the same MMA level as Mir. Then again, Mir has been pretty inconsistent since his accident and the same Mir that fought Dan Christison could show up. I hope he's taking training more seriously now. Hopefully Mir by submission.

Interestingly, the last time someone came straight to UFC based solely on other sport credentials was Marcio Cruz, who won the ADCC submission grappling championships. He fought Mir in his second fight, and won.

[Scott Markowitz]

Wow. Lesnar has really trimmed down. I may actually watch this one.

[Easton Taylor]

I am a Frank Mir fan.....however since his motorcycle wreck he hasn't been the same. Brock is a freak....the man is a phenom. Great wrestler (freestyle) and is very fast for a very big man. I think he will overwhelm Mir with his speed and power, and as long as he stays out of a submission he should win.

[Matt Schumann]

yeah... well i think the wwe had him listed at 300 or 290lbs. You have to think he could realisticly still weight anywhere from 275-280 and just make the water cut for weigh-ins.


i hope he gives hi the F5! haha

[Paul Savage]

An animated predicition of the fight... pretty funny.

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that was great!

apparently frank mir is in very good shape for this/totally up for it, so it should be a good fight, cuss you gotta know lesnar is ready, hes too intense not to be - i feel that if frank mir trys an arm bar, lesnar could just grab his own hand to use both arms an more importantly his back, an then pick frank mirs body up high in the air, an then dump on his head so hard he doesn't know what the hell just happned >by this time lesnar will have finished the fight

so unless lesnar slips or gets caught real quick in something, i just dont think he can lose the fight. Mirs only realistic way to win is by submission, an i think lesnar will just be like matt hughes used to be at 170, too damn strong to submit for most of the division >hes so much bigger an stronger than frank mir

[Garrick Daft]

Mir is a genius at finding submission, but I agree with the above comment that since his accident he seems to have lost something. I see Brock Lesnar destroying him though, I think Lesnar will want to prove something big by breaking Mir apart.

[Chris Grantano]

I agree that Mir hasn't had that "invincible" attitude since his return, and as for Lesnar: IMO most pure wrestlers have a tough time adapting to MMA. They are great at dominating position, but don't do much from that position. A good example is Matt (can't remember last name- the deaf dude from TUF), he was great on the ground, but didn't know how to finish a fight. He's gotten much better, but it's a hell of a transition. I know Hughes and Sanchez et-al have done just fine, but they also have had much more MMA ring time than Lesnar. I hope it's a good one, I fear this is the put up or shut up fight for Mir, however.

[Tony Moses]

I'm looking forward to it. I guess these discussions get heated with people arguing whether Brock will get caught in a submission once on the ground.

I think both guys are gonna be prepared and expecting to win. I think it is a must-win for Mir, I think Lesnar's career can afford a loss and chalk it up to inexperience. Mir is gonna be driven because a loss is probably the end of the road for him, Lesnar will be driven because he's really got something to prove and the guy is obviously a competitor and hates not winning at anything.

Wrestlers certainly have fared well in the UFC, and I don't think there has ever been a better amateur wrestler than Lesnar in there, so the potential is there and I'm sure Lesnar has been preparing for this with some quality people.

My prediction: Lesnar big.

[Jared Enderton]

Lesnar in the first round by TKO. I have to go with the former wrestler here. he's a brute.

[Anthony Cissell]

Guess I'll throw in my 2 cents...

Here's the thing a lot of you are missing...Brock Lesnar has had 1 professional fight and in that fight he really didn't look impressive at all and he was facing a journeyman in Min Soo Kim who took the fight on short notice because Brock's original opponent Hong Man Choi (who was recently submitted by Fedor) had to pull out due to injury. It was a less than lack luster performance from Lesnar against Kim and did nothing that was overly impressive or out of bounds in that fight.

Frank Mir just came off a great submission victory against Antoni Hardonk where Mir took him down very quickly, spun out of an arm bar, got top position, and sinked in a beautiful Kimura to end the fight in very fast fashion. Yes Frank's motorcycle accident severely damaged all the joints and all of his major ligaments and he really hasn't looked that great since then. He's come back from his injury with a loss to Brandon Vera and a less than stellar decision victory over Dan Christison, and a loss to Marcio Cruz. 2-2 since his accident but Frank has said it himself that he believes he is fully healed from his accident and if he comes out in the shape he came out in against Hardonk and performs like he did Lesnar will be in big trouble.

The way I see the fight going down is this: Frank Mir has stated on various sites that he knows he isn't going to out wrestle a former All American collegiate wrestler for 15 minutes and knows that at some point in the fight that Lesnar will use his wrestling to take him down. There is no doubt that Lesnar is a LEGIT wrestler and has a significant advantage in the wrestling game but there is simply no way shape or form that Lesnar is going to just take Mir down and lay on him for 15 minutes and try to eek out a decision. Mir is dangerous from his back (just ask Tim Sylvia) and will look for submissions and in the end I just feel that Lesnar is being thrown to the wolves on this one. I mean your first opponent in a journeyman fighter that you were suppose to beat in a much more devastating fashion than you did, and now your being thrown into the cage with a former UFC heavyweight champion? A stiff challenge for Lesnar no doubt.

In the end I see the fight as Lesnar taking Mir down, and Mir using his phenomenal Jiu-Jitsu to gain position and submit Lesnar either late in the first round or early in the second. Lesnar will be a big name in the UFC but he needs more experience and in the end I think that is what gets him.

Mir By Submission

And just pray that big Timmy doesn't pull off a lame decision over Big Nog.
War NOG!
War MIR!

[Ryan Rhodes]

Mir wrecked Hardonk in just a minute recently. Lesnars going to fight the same way. I'd bet a dollar that Mir takes him out in the 1st. You watch. Lesnar's just trying to convince himself that he's not going to have his A-- handed to him. I hope Lesnar does bring it, though. Nobody out there is shelling the $ to see a quick main event.

[Kurt Hessenbruch]

Lesnar has a fallace on his chest. Mir by broken ulna... or so I hope.

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[Jonathan Macfarlane]

Mir wrecked Hardonk in just a minute recently. Lesnars going to fight the same way. I'd bet a dollar that Mir takes him out in the 1st. You watch. Lesnar's just trying to convince himself that he's not going to have his A-- handed to him. I hope Lesnar does bring it, though. Nobody out there is shelling the $ to see a quick main event.

That's my thoughts too. I don't think Mir is nearly as weak as some guys make him out to be strength wise. That said, I want to see Lesnar being something special.

[ADAMBAUER]

No real reasoning here but my gut says Lesnar and Sylvia both walk away with a win here.

[Josh Kamins]

Yeah I basically agree with Anthony's analysis. Lesnar may be a freak, but I can't see his submission defense being developed enough in a year to stop Mir. Lesnar's chances are outworking for 3 rounds and getting him to tire....which is surely possible, or staying in Mir's guard and slamming some strong punches and elbows enough to damage him so his jiujitsu can't respond.

BJJ was designed to beat bigger guys, Mir isn't stronger than Sapp was or HMC, and we see what Nog did to Sapp and Fedor to HMC.

I'm taking Mir by armlock or RNC...

[darrell baker]

hopefully mir comes in shape, reports seem to suggest that. mir will win this if he's in shape. a lot of unknowness with brock though. he's a big strong dude but i've heard some stuff (maybe not true) that he couldn't take sylvia down when training at mfs. again, this maybe not true & in brock's defence, sylvia can sprawl pretty good. i hope mir returns to his pre-accident form cause it would add some nice depth to the ufc heavyweight division.

nog will beat sylvia. i think he'll out strike him standing & then finish with tko or sub. only thing that worries me is a decision, although nog certainly keeps attacking which scores big with the judges.

[Josh Kamins]

I'm hoping Nog outboxes Tim and then finishes him wtih a sub in the 2nd..

[JohnCook]

Guess I'll throw in my 2 cents...

Here's the thing a lot of you are missing...Brock Lesnar has had 1 professional fight and in that fight he really didn't look impressive at all and he was facing a journeyman in Min Soo Kim who took the fight on short notice because Brock's original opponent Hong Man Choi (who was recently submitted by Fedor) had to pull out due to injury. It was a less than lack luster performance from Lesnar against Kim and did nothing that was overly impressive or out of bounds in that fight.

Frank Mir just came off a great submission victory against Antoni Hardonk where Mir took him down very quickly, spun out of an arm bar, got top position, and sinked in a beautiful Kimura to end the fight in very fast fashion. Yes Frank's motorcycle accident severely damaged all the joints and all of his major ligaments and he really hasn't looked that great since then. He's come back from his injury with a loss to Brandon Vera and a less than stellar decision victory over Dan Christison, and a loss to Marcio Cruz. 2-2 since his accident but Frank has said it himself that he believes he is fully healed from his accident and if he comes out in the shape he came out in against Hardonk and performs like he did Lesnar will be in big trouble.

The way I see the fight going down is this: Frank Mir has stated on various sites that he knows he isn't going to out wrestle a former All American collegiate wrestler for 15 minutes and knows that at some point in the fight that Lesnar will use his wrestling to take him down. There is no doubt that Lesnar is a LEGIT wrestler and has a significant advantage in the wrestling game but there is simply no way shape or form that Lesnar is going to just take Mir down and lay on him for 15 minutes and try to eek out a decision. Mir is dangerous from his back (just ask Tim Sylvia) and will look for submissions and in the end I just feel that Lesnar is being thrown to the wolves on this one. I mean your first opponent in a journeyman fighter that you were suppose to beat in a much more devastating fashion than you did, and now your being thrown into the cage with a former UFC heavyweight champion? A stiff challenge for Lesnar no doubt.

In the end I see the fight as Lesnar taking Mir down, and Mir using his phenomenal Jiu-Jitsu to gain position and submit Lesnar either late in the first round or early in the second. Lesnar will be a big name in the UFC but he needs more experience and in the end I think that is what gets him.

Mir By Submission

And just pray that big Timmy doesn't pull off a lame decision over Big Nog.
War NOG!
War MIR!


I agree with everything you said....including a Mir victory....except one thing.

How can you possibly say that Brock didn't look good against Min Soo Kim? The fight lasted 69 seconds, Kim walked out into the middle of the ring, gave Brock a leg, he took him down easily, passed his guard in a matter of seconds.....and then proceeded to pound him to death until the guy tapped from strikes. Exactly what else would you have had him do in that fight to make it a "impressive performance"???

[JohnCook]

No real reasoning here but my gut says Lesnar and Sylvia both walk away with a win here.


For the sake of my sanity I hope you are wrong. I don't think I can handle another Tim Sylvia title reign. I'm praying to the MMA gods for a Nog victory.

[Matt Schumann]

for anyone interested the UFC preview show is on right now, they are going to be showing lesnar training and his college wrestling career....

Up to this point they havent showed much of his training but what they did show was really impressive, i think they are going to feature his training next

[Anthony Cissell]

Well in all reality the real winner of this fight is going to be the UFC. Think about it, if Lesnar wins, they have a huge superstar and a huge draw to build future events off of, and if Mir wins, the UFC has another contender for the heavyweight belt and are able to re-establish Mir as the beast he once was. Either way UFC gains big time from this fight. Still...

WAR MIR!!!

[dronga]

I think Mir is a great fighter, and you can't take that away from him, but I think Brock is going to knock him out.(KO) We'll see, should be a good fight.

[Mike Westerling]

...I think Lesnar will come out like a raging bull and be dominating BUT I think Mir will weather the storm and tie him up for a bit which will make Brock mad and he will start getting more and more aggravated trying to make something happen and burn himself out. Once he's tired he'll make a mistake and Mir will submit him. Unless Mir is too busy trying to show he's back in which case I give Brock the edge on strength and conditioning. Either way it will be awesome to watch.
Just my 2c's
-Mike

[Matt Schumann]

i watched th show last night. i was a little disapointed. I was execting something like they did with W. Silva last month.


They didnt really show much, from what little i saw of lesnar.... AHe does look very powerful and explosive especially for his size. I didnt see an actual cage where he was training so I wonder if that will have an effect.

However they also showed Mir, and watching it definitly reminded me what hes all about

[Vincent Dizenzo]

Mir is the man!

[JohnCook]

...I think Lesnar will come out like a raging bull


This is what I'm afraid of. He needs to fight smart....coming out and just trying to pummel Mir is going to end up as a submission victory for Mir. IMO that's most likely what Mir is banking on, Lesnar getting too "psyched up"....thus getting sloppy and leaving a limb available for the taking.

If you watch the fight between Frank Shamrock and Kevin Jackson (UFC Japan - Ultimate Japan, 21Dec97), that's pretty much how that went down. Jackson has a gold medal in freestyle wrestling to his credit, so obviously Shamrock isn't going to try to outwrestle him. However, he waited for Jackson to rush in for a takedown.....when he did, BAM.....Shamrock wrapped him up in an armbar. It was like 20 seconds into the first round.

Hopefully Lesnar and his team have devised a smarter plan then immediately looking for the takedown and then relying on GNP/LNP. With Lesnar's size, strength and athleticism, I'm hoping they've worked on his greco clinch game. If he can pin Mir against the fence and pound him with elbows, knees, bodyshots, whatever from the inside of a clinch, that should pretty much neutralize any shot Mir has at a submission. With Lesnar's wrestling pedigree I don't see it going to the ground unless he wants it to go to the ground. Mir has never been feared standing, if I were Lesnar I'd want to keep the fight there, far away from Mir's greatest weapon, his submissions. Lesnar's striking is unproven in a situation where him and his opponent are standing toe to toe in the center of the cage, however pinned against the fence in close quarters I think his strikes will be plenty dangerous.

I can't wait for Saturday!

[dronga]

It would be nice to see Brock give him a back to belly suplex alla Dan Severin.

[JohnCook]

It would be nice to see Brock give him a back to belly suplex alla Dan Severin.


He definitely has the abilities too, although like I mentioned earlier, I don't know if I like the idea of him scrambling like that on the ground with Mir. Gives Mir too many opportunities to find a limb to latch on to.

[dronga]

I miss some of the crazy stuff that used to go on in the old UFC.

[steve Barkley]

I have to go with Lesnar, just based on the fact he has speed, and power. And he has been training this for two years, so it is not like he just started last month. And Mir has not been the same since is accident

[Mac Smith]

speed, power, and athleticism don't always mean a better fighter. The UFC has had guys like Kevin Randelman and Melvin Girrad. Both of whom were probably a couple of the best athletes on the planet. Randelman with his wrestling pedigree enjoyed great success but has been beaten by much lesser athletes. Girard has actualy proven that his tremendous athleticism has actually hindered him because he has exposed himself during those explosive movements. Unlike most other sports, the best 'athlete' doesn't always win but the better 'fighter' usually does.

I look forward to this fight!

[Matt Schumann]

actually they are having a different show on about lesnar right now.... the same show with richelle leah that they had on silva last month.... this is the one i was hoping they had on last night. anways its on right now if anyones interested

[Kÿle Vezeau]

I predict Brock Lesnar winning via unanimous destruction.

[Matt Schumann]

watched that special last night on brock. The guy has the life...... He bought this beatiful house in MN I believe with a farm.... Had a building built on his property and designed his own gym in it. He is Married to Sable from the wwf.... doesnt have internet access and shares on cell phone.

His training looked good. Seems to be in gret cardiovascular shape for someone of his size. The only things that looked out of place was his actually mma training. Didnt really seem to do alot of sparring, or live ground work.. ALl of it seemed light. Maybe they just didnt shw all of it.... from what they showed it just seemed lighter when comparing it to some of the other fighters that they have highlighted of this particular show.

Guy is an animal though......... i think he would be awesome at strongman if this whole ufc thing doesnt pan out.

[Justin Wood]

I saw the same tv special last night. He is indeed big, very cut, and seems in great shape. The whole idea of him being able to take shots to the face, different submission holds, I would question. He looks slower than I imagined he would be, but 280 of bulk will do that I guess. I wonder if this is just going to be one of those Kimbo type fights, where he just attempts to overpower and maul him.

[darrell baker]

wow...44-20 in favor of lesnar so far, i am surprised. mir looked good in the countdown show, he even said he's finally feeling like an athlete again for the first time since his accident. if he is indeed back to form, mir will win this fight. 5 outta his 10 w's are subs less than 2 min into the fight (3 less than 1 min). it could be over quick!

big nog was doing some nice training, that gnp with the 45er looked explosive!

[Steve Kirit]

Division one wrestlers, especially D1 champions tend to be of a slightly different pedigree. Of course that alone is not nearly enough in what is becoming a very technical and experience oriented sport.
That being said, remember that Lesnar was a collegiate champ, not an olympian. I am certain Lesnar has prepared very well for this fight and will demonstrate his size/strength combination well. However Mir is far from a slouch, and has faced, and beaten, many more men in MMA than Lesnar thus far. My prediction is that it will be a fight, where anything can and will happen.

[Chris Tobin]

Ha Ha, told you all he would tap out. :EL:

[Dan Harrison]

I was extremely disappointed with the fight. Watching my hero Brock complete beat the HELL out of Mir and then slip a little bit and get caught in an ankle lock and get submitted pissed me off like crazy. It gave me back problems and a headache and I went to bed nauseated.

[Jonathan Macfarlane]

ADAMBAUER, Brandon Campbell, Brendan Merchant, Chad Robison, Dallas Hogan, Daniel Atchison, David standifer, Diane Watts, dronga, Easton Taylor, Eric Jett, Eric Johnson, Eric Todd, Evan Hansmann, Garrick Daft, Jake Peeterse, James Deffinbaugh, Jamie T, Jared Enderton, Jessejobe, johanberggren, johnnytang24, Kevin Cronin, Kÿle Vezeau, LanceMoore, Lucjan Zolnierowski, matt johnson, Matt Schumann, Matt Wattles, Mike Landrich, Mike Prewitt, Nick Best, Nick Davis, Paul F.X. Armstrong, Paul Savage, Ryan Brown, Ryan Dickie, Scott Markowitz, Steve Ray, supermagnamon, tackle78, Tom Yannuzzi, Tony Moses, Wayne Lam

[Jay O'Neill]

Experiance, technique and patience will beat Power everytime.... I like Brock as well but he took Mir too lightly.

[Josh Kamins]

as if those little rabbit punches were really doing damage... haha Actually I think he did have some nice bombs, but he was too content to sit in the guard at some points and throw what he thought were strong punches, but for a seasoned fighter weren't...

I think Lesnar does have a strong future if he sticks with it and keeps working on his sub defense and his striking. He is an amazing athlete, for sure.

[Mike Westerling]

...it sucks that Brock lost to a knee bar as a lot of people will say its a cheesy way to win. However, it just goes to show how many more tools a seasoned pro has in his kit. I believe Brock will be a force in the future if he sticks with it though and I hope he does.
-Mike

[Mike Landrich]

ADAMBAUER, Brandon Campbell, Brendan Merchant, Chad Robison, Dallas Hogan, Daniel Atchison, David standifer, Diane Watts, dronga, Easton Taylor, Eric Jett, Eric Johnson, Eric Todd, Evan Hansmann, Garrick Daft, Jake Peeterse, James Deffinbaugh, Jamie T, Jared Enderton, Jessejobe, johanberggren, johnnytang24, Kevin Cronin, Kÿle Vezeau, LanceMoore, Lucjan Zolnierowski, matt johnson, Matt Schumann, Matt Wattles, Mike Landrich, Mike Prewitt, Nick Best, Nick Davis, Paul F.X. Armstrong, Paul Savage, Ryan Brown, Ryan Dickie, Scott Markowitz, Steve Ray, supermagnamon, tackle78, Tom Yannuzzi, Tony Moses, Wayne Lam


I've been wrong before, and I will be wrong again. Oh well, that's why MMA is so interesting.

[AaRoNSnider]

I think they should go back to just "no biting, no eye gouging, and techniques such as hair pulling, headbutts and groin strikes were frowned upon, but allowed" ..I know first hand that blows to the back of the head are dangerous.I guess it was a bit of a disappointment last night when the fight got broke up after that.However Im NOT trying to make excuses for Lesnar losing.

[Jonathan Macfarlane]

ADAMBAUER, Brandon Campbell, Brendan Merchant, Chad Robison, Dallas Hogan, Daniel Atchison, David standifer, Diane Watts, dronga, Easton Taylor, Eric Jett, Eric Johnson, Eric Todd, Evan Hansmann, Garrick Daft, Jake Peeterse, James Deffinbaugh, Jamie T, Jared Enderton, Jessejobe, johanberggren, johnnytang24, Kevin Cronin, Kÿle Vezeau, LanceMoore, Lucjan Zolnierowski, matt johnson, Matt Schumann, Matt Wattles, Mike Landrich, Mike Prewitt, Nick Best, Nick Davis, Paul F.X. Armstrong, Paul Savage, Ryan Brown, Ryan Dickie, Scott Markowitz, Steve Ray, supermagnamon, tackle78, Tom Yannuzzi, Tony Moses, Wayne Lam


Lol, as expected, I'm getting negged to hell for this post.

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[ADAMBAUER]

Lol, as expected, I'm getting negged to hell for this post.

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I won't neg ya Jono!
I still say give him time and Lesnar will be a force, as far as Sylvia I don't know what to say I was expecting more from him. I haven't see it but readin the recap I am disapointed.

[Scott Markowitz]

You can't be getting too many negs - you still have about 453 little green dots. :B:

[Jonathan Macfarlane]

I won't neg ya Jono!
I still say give him time and Lesnar will be a force, as far as Sylvia I don't know what to say I was expecting more from him. I haven't see it but readin the recap I am disapointed.


Haha, fine then.

The question is how much time? My ignorant opinion says it could be 2 years before he's able to take on anyone in the UFC and truly dominate. With his current popularity and fame I'm not sure he could afford to go through that time period without being dominant. Make sense? Agree, disagree?

[Brad Morris]

Mir is a great submission fighter, I was not disappointed in Lesnar. He is with a good team and took the loss well. I still think he can be a force in the HW division.

[ADAMBAUER]

Haha, fine then.

The question is how much time? My ignorant opinion says it could be 2 years before he's able to take on anyone in the UFC and truly dominate. With his current popularity and fame I'm not sure he could afford to go through that time period without being dominant. Make sense? Agree, disagree?

I'd say with a year of hard training and some good competition he could be a great fighter, even in a loss if you learn somthing from it then it isn't all bad (not as good as a win but still not all bad)

[Easton Taylor]

Mir is a great submission fighter........but that is the second B!TCH A$$ way of him winning a fight. However, he was getting pummeled, and took the only way out. It would have been better if it was an armbar.......Credit to Mir. He weathered the storm......

[Paul Savage]

yeh i got it wrong, but to be fair, the ref saved mir straight away, i dont know what that was about? it was one shot, an mir turned his head around to get it + it wasn't so much that mir won the fight, more that lesnar gave it to him

mir has great submissions, but imo was very lucky to win, an also lucky to not get seriously injured, brock didn't really land any full on shots an mir's face was busted up bad anyways - this loss will get brock closer to the unbeatable force he can be, because he will know not to take anyone lightly again / not leave himself open

i predict he will destroy whoever steps in the cage with him in his next fight

[JohnCook]

as if those little rabbit punches were really doing damage... haha Actually I think he did have some nice bombs, but he was too content to sit in the guard at some points and throw what he thought were strong punches, but for a seasoned fighter weren't...

I think Lesnar does have a strong future if he sticks with it and keeps working on his sub defense and his striking. He is an amazing athlete, for sure.


http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g173/C_Monster/Mir1.jpg

He definitely did some damage.


I agree that Lesnar has a bright future. I'm definitely looking forward to his next fight. I've read that he'll fight next at UFC 86 in the UK.

[Matt Schumann]

any rumors as to who lenar will fight? legit rumors

[dronga]

any rumors as to who lenar will fight? legit rumors

Richard Simmons! :EB:

[Matt Schumann]

WoW dan! i didnt know that YOU fought! :M:



Richard Simmons! :EB:

[dronga]

WoW dan! i didnt know that YOU fought! :M:


The scary thing is that guy is laughing all the way to the bank! Oh well, if you paid me enough money, I'd get a cheap perm, and wear short shorts, and make cheesy exercise videos, oh well!

[Josh Kamins]

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g173/C_Monster/Mir1.jpg

He definitely did some damage.


I agree that Lesnar has a bright future. I'm definitely looking forward to his next fight. I've read that he'll fight next at UFC 86 in the UK.

Well he did hit him a fair amount, but the swelling isn't huge, those look like damage more from glancing or smaller punches than huge bombs. Cuts instead of swelling...

[Jay O'Neill]

Well he did hit him a fair amount, but the swelling isn't huge, those look like damage more from glancing or smaller punches than huge bombs. Cuts instead of swelling...

Nothing but a few supficial scrapes there.... No lumps or bumps like Shamrock had when he fought Tito. Doesnt matter... 1:30 in the first round... Lesnar lost pretty big. I am sure he will be back and more then likely do some damage...

oh Yeah and Big Ups to these guys! haha
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[JohnCook]

Well he did hit him a fair amount, but the swelling isn't huge, those look like damage more from glancing or smaller punches than huge bombs. Cuts instead of swelling...


I'll respectfully disagree, I've been in some scuffles where I took hard, direct shots and didn't have as much evidence on my face as Mir does there. I'll bet he had some bruising that didn't show up until later on. Not saying Lesnar is going to be striking with Mirko CroCop anytime soon, but I think he definitely landed some hard shots on Mir.


Like Jay said though, regardless he got tapped out early in the fight. As I figured he would if he tried to scramble on the ground like that with Mir. I wish they would have had him practice a Greco style clinch much like what Couture uses. I realize Lesnar's specialty is freestyle but it wouldn't be hard for him to employ Greco techniques, especially considering the dude's upperbody strength. When I wrestled I practiced both styles. I feel like this way he could have kept the fight standing, out of the way of most submissions, and used his size and strength to pin Mir against the fence and beat on him from close range that way. Oh well, if anything this loss will probably serve him for the better. Hopefully he ends up on the UFC 86 card in June as has been rumored.

[Kÿle Vezeau]

I agree, those are just scrapes, probably from the leather friction.

[Vincent Dizenzo]

I agree, those are just scrapes, probably from the leather friction.

Exactly! Lesnar's punches looked awful.