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rogersmith
07-16-2008, 07:00 PM
Has anyone tired this. I know glen was selling some stuff to use. I though of making one stone and doing it. I don't use tacky, due to the mess, and wondered if this would be an option. Anyone know how it compares to tacky?
Mark A Cummings
07-16-2008, 07:21 PM
Has anyone tired this. I know glen was selling some stuff to use. I though of making one stone and doing it. I don't use tacky, due to the mess, and wondered if this would be an option. Anyone know how it compares to tacky?
Never heard of a rubber coated Atlas stone. How does it work? Is it a dip or something you brush on?
Ryan Wells
07-16-2008, 07:55 PM
Has anyone tired this. I know glen was selling some stuff to use. I though of making one stone and doing it. I don't use tacky, due to the mess, and wondered if this would be an option. Anyone know how it compares to tacky?
Drop a line to Kurt Hessenbruch on here. He brushed on Plasti-dip on his and from what I understand, it works pretty well.
Mark A Cummings
07-16-2008, 08:27 PM
Drop a line to Kurt Hessenbruch on here. He brushed on Plasti-dip on his and from what I understand, it works pretty well.
That means I can do a whole set of stones in Eleiko colors!
Kurt Hessenbruch
07-16-2008, 08:42 PM
Yup -- as Ryan said, I rubber coat my stones. I use two 14.5 oz cans of Plasti Dip per stone mixed with some playground sand for grip. I apply it with a mini roller w/ a fairly long nap. I roll one can on, covering the top half plus a little more, then let it dry completely before rolling the stone and coating the other side.
Patrick McGuffin
07-16-2008, 11:40 PM
The sequim crew has a stone that is coated in rhynolining. Seems to work well from my experience. ( still doesnt make me any better of a stone lifter though.
Curtis Lake
07-17-2008, 05:23 AM
Hey Kurt, do you do that so you don't have to use tacky or to keep them cleaner if you do use tacky?
Curtis
Kurt Hessenbruch
07-17-2008, 05:38 AM
Hey Kurt, do you do that so you don't have to use tacky or to keep them cleaner if you do use tacky?
Curtis
I do it so that I don't have to use tacky. The sand in the mix gives them good grip, but I do have to use sleeves in order to keep from shredding my arms.
I'm hosting a contest in November and there will be a stone-over-bar event w/ my rubber coated stones, no tacky allowed.
Mark A Cummings
07-17-2008, 05:49 AM
Kurt, I have a 20" 325lb thats fairly grainy. I don't know if our mix was off or what, but the more its brushed off the grainier it gets. If you use tacky on this stone it just sticks concrete to your arms. Do you think your PlastiDip solution would work well in this case?
Kurt Hessenbruch
07-17-2008, 06:46 AM
Kurt, I have a 20" 325lb thats fairly grainy. I don't know if our mix was off or what, but the more its brushed off the grainier it gets. If you use tacky on this stone it just sticks concrete to your arms. Do you think your PlastiDip solution would work well in this case?
Probably, although all of the stones I've coated have been fresh, virgin concrete. I'd try to get as much of the tacky off as possible before trying to coat it, as I'm not sure how well it would stick in that case.
You might also want to use a little more Plasti Dip than what I mentioned since you're looking for it to actually hold the surface of the stone together... three cans should give you a nice thick coating.
Matthew White
07-17-2008, 07:16 AM
LOOKS LIKE THIS MAN HAS FOUND AN EXUSE TO GO TO LOWES AGAIN!!! YESH!!! (350 stone here I come bwahahaha) Good deal Kurt! Thanks for sharing!
Mark A Cummings
07-17-2008, 07:33 AM
Another couple of dumb questions Kurt, because I plan on doing one of mine this weekend. How long does it usually take to dry before you roll it to the other side? And how well does it wear, does rolling it around on concrete diminish its lifespan? And how thick do you lay it on? Going to do that 325 and see if it will stick!
Kurt Hessenbruch
07-17-2008, 08:04 AM
Another couple of dumb questions Kurt, because I plan on doing one of mine this weekend. How long does it usually take to dry before you roll it to the other side? And how well does it wear, does rolling it around on concrete diminish its lifespan? And how thick do you lay it on? Going to do that 325 and see if it will stick!
It seems to wear pretty well, probably because concrete is porous and gives the coating something to grab on to. I don’t think rolling it around has much impact on the coating, although most of my rolling is done on rubber mats. I’m sure that rolling it on rough concrete would take a toll more quickly. If you whack the stone on a sharp corner, it’ll certainly scar the coating, too, as I’m sure you’d expect, but it would be very easy to touch up these little blemishes.
As far as thickness of the coating, I’m not really sure how to quantify it. I use two cans per stone and coat until all the Plast Dip is gone and that seems adequate to me. Of course, using more will not hurt anything and as I said, I’d probably recommend using more than two cans since you are looking to do this on a used, grainy stone.
It starts to dry to a tack fairly quickly and you’ll probably notice your roller wanting to “unroll” some of what you’ve done if you don’t work quickly enough. That said, it takes a bit longer to dry completely and I try to wait at least a day before rolling it over to do the other side. If you roll it too early, the Plasti Dip will want to stick to the surface you’re rolling it on and it could come off.
rogersmith
07-17-2008, 08:12 AM
Yup -- as Ryan said, I rubber coat my stones. I use two 14.5 oz cans of Plasti Dip per stone mixed with some playground sand for grip. I apply it with a mini roller w/ a fairly long nap. I roll one can on, covering the top half plus a little more, then let it dry completely before rolling the stone and coating the other side.
That sounds very interesting. THANKS!! Any idea how much sand per can? Like a cup?
Kurt Hessenbruch
07-17-2008, 08:34 AM
That sounds very interesting. THANKS!! Any idea how much sand per can? Like a cup?
That sounds about right. Use playground sand. The super fine silica sand doesn't work very well.
Rex Douglas
07-17-2008, 10:45 AM
I'm going to try and coat my 225lb stone with this this weekend and see how it goes (that way if something goes wrong I'm only out my little el-cheapo stone)
I'll take pictures and let everyone know how it turns out.
Mark A Cummings
07-27-2008, 05:23 PM
Finished that nasty, grainy 325lb stone. It looks great! The Plasti-Dip seeped into every pit and crevice. Looks like it adhered itselfe far better than I thought it would given the nature of the stone. Only color I could find was black, so I think I'll stencil in a nice white "8" and leave it at that! Thanks for the help! I can finally use that stone again! Another question though, if you use tacky on it, does it want to pull the coating off?
Kurt Hessenbruch
07-28-2008, 09:40 AM
Another question though, if you use tacky on it, does it want to pull the coating off?
Don't know. The reason I coat mine is so that I won't have to use tacky.
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