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[LaMont Campbell]

i just want to put it out there that stan should not be taking lightly next year! the reason why i say that is because i have had the pleasure of working out with him and believe me he is a beast in the weight room. ive known him for quite some yrs and even had the pleasure of hanging out at his beautiful house. good guy and extremely strong!!!

[Shaun Walker]

Seen his total. Probably one of the strongest men in the world.

[Anthony Esquerdo]

Before this becomes a flame thread rofl I want to say Stan is a monster "power-builder" with a very impressive and respectable raw total.

[Tyler Shelgren]

Stan is a freak of nature and I think we should all prod him to leave the dark side and move towards the light of Strongman :M:

[Shaun Walker]

Before this becomes a flame thread rofl I want to say Stan is a monster "power-builder" with a very impressive and respectable raw total.

I don't see how this could become a flame fest. I have seen his lifts on Youtube and they looked very, very legit. Guy is an absolute beast.

[Easton Taylor]

His lifts are legit, however since he is a "Pro" BB he should focus on being a better BB right? If the BB er's want to bost how strong they are why don't they challenge actual strong men? In my personal opinion who cares who is the strongest BB is.

[Shaun Walker]

His lifts are legit, however since he is a "Pro" BB he should focus on being a better BB right? If the BB er's want to bost how strong they are why don't they challenge actual strong men? In my personal opinion who cares who is the strongest BB is.

Stan is mainly a powerlifter who dabbles in bodybuilding. He has an IFBB pro card, hence he is technically a pro bodybuilder, but his heart is with powerlifting. I think he trains with at Supertraining Gym under Mark Bell (Smelly), and he doesn't do many bodybuilding shows. In fact I think he might have only done one or two...

[Pete Berg]

i just want to put it out there that stan should not be taking lightly next year! the reason why i say that is because i have had the pleasure of working out with him and believe me he is a beast in the weight room. ive known him for quite some yrs and even had the pleasure of hanging out at his beautiful house. good guy and extremely strong!!!

What? Is he doing strongman? Did someone challenge him to a strongman contest? Not to be a jerk but what does this have to do with strongman? Or what goes on here? Is this about bodybuilding, powerlifting or strongman? I'm lost.

[JEFF VANCO]

Who cares what else Stan does.

His raw powerlifting total is kick ass.

[Vincent Dizenzo]

I'm lost.

You got that part right.

[Anthony Esquerdo]

I don't see how this could become a flame fest. I have seen his lifts on Youtube and they looked very, very legit. Guy is an absolute beast.

His lifts are legit, however since he is a "Pro" BB he should focus on being a better BB right? If the BB er's want to bost how strong they are why don't they challenge actual strong men? In my personal opinion who cares who is the strongest BB is.

Case and point. FLAMER!!! I think Easton maybe a TROLL never seen him post around here before lol JK, Easton, I am all in with you in with not liking body builders claiming the strongest but Stan never said he was world's strongest man, just bodybuilder, which when you look at the facts is the truth. If Stan wasn't one of the top ranked RAW powerlifters I wouldn't care about him either but he is. Don't just hate him cause his biceps are swole and intact lol.

[Easton Taylor]

Case and point. FLAMER!!! I think Easton maybe a TROLL never seen him post around here before lol JK, Easton, I am all in with you in with not liking body builders claiming the strongest but Stan never said he was world's strongest man, just bodybuilder, which when you look at the facts is the truth. If Stan wasn't one of the top ranked RAW powerlifters I wouldn't care about him either but he is. Don't just hate him cause his biceps are swole and intact lol.

Tony I am not trying to make waves, I just got back from my ban. Stan is a strong dude. However he markets himself as a BB. He is not a powerlifter. I am just saying........

[Ryan Phillips]

He is not a powerlifter. I am just saying........


well he has the highest RAW powerlifting total in the world this year and infact for the past 3-4 years. So imagine if he actually became a powerlifter, he would be unstoppable!! ;)

[Lance Holland-Keen]

Who cares what he "is".
It's how strong he is, that is the point.

I may have accidentally just agreed with Ryan.

It would be great to have a comp where guys had to do a bit of everything just like the old days before there were even divisons into strongman, powerlifting, weight lifting and guys who lifted, lifted everything and were athletes.

Being a strongman is about being an athlete isn't it?

[Reggie Brown]

Tony I am not trying to make waves, I just got back from my ban. Stan is a strong dude. However he markets himself as a BB. He is not a powerlifter. I am just saying........

Ummm, he's not a powerlifter? Dude the second highest total ever for his weight class! Stan is stronger than 95% of the people that post on this board. Guy has a raw elite total to his credit and has an IFBB pro card. You can't be both?

[Kevin Cronin]

Tony I am not trying to make waves, I just got back from my ban. Stan is a strong dude. However he markets himself as a BB. He is not a powerlifter. I am just saying........
I don't care if he's a pro badmitton player, those weights were heavy. Can't take anything away from that.

[Easton Taylor]

Like I said before, I think he is a strong dude. However since he is the strongest BB and he challenged other BB's with 20 grand and his hummer.........

Someone that is not a BB called him out and I am pretty much 90 percent sure he did and will continue to back out.
The guy who called him out could beat him, and possibily break 2400 lbs and take the raw total home with Stan's money and his hummer.

If you want to know who this person is, then search the forum and you will see the conversation about him about 3 weeks ago.

All I am saying is If you claim to be "the strongest whatever" and have the second biggest raw powerlifting total ever why not extend the challenge to anyone? You guys are on the side that he is more powerlifter then BB right? You are making my arguement that much more legit.

It would be like Derek Lbstone challenging (this is only an example no disrespect to Derek) the world and having Big Z show up and him back out.

If you claim to be strong and run your mouth then back it up.

[Kevin Cronin]

Like I said before, I think he is a strong dude. However since he is the strongest BB and he challenged other BB's with 20 grand and his hummer.........

Someone that is not a BB called him out and I am pretty much 90 percent sure he did and will continue to back out.
The guy who called him out could beat him, and possibily break 2400 lbs and take the raw total home with Stan's money and his hummer.

If you want to know who this person is, then search the forum and you will see the conversation about him about 3 weeks ago.

All I am saying is If you claim to be "the strongest whatever" and have the second biggest raw powerlifting total ever why not extend the challenge to anyone? You guys are on the side that he is more powerlifter then BB right? You are making my arguement that much more legit.

It would be like Derek Lbstone challenging (this is only an example no disrespect to Derek) the world and having Big Z show up and him back out.

If you claim to be strong and run your mouth then back it up.

I know who you are referring to. And I'm not on any "side" that he is mroe powerlifter or more bodybuilder or whatever. I'm on the side that he put up a great raw total.

To the best of my understanding this got started because Johnny O always claimed (and with good reason, at least ronnie retired) to be the strongest bodybuilder. Ben white disputed that, Muscletech saw a chance to get some pub and set up a contest between the two. I think all of this is reasonable, because yeah, bodybuilding is about aesthetics, but it's nice to see who can perform too. Stan said 'hold on, if you're talking about strongest bodybuilder, why am I not included?' and put up the hummer and cash to prove it. Again, still about the bodybuilders here. All Stan did was say "hey, they're talking about pro bodybuilders. I'm in that class, I dont see anybody stronger than me in that class, and I'm willing to bet on it." He didnt say ANYTHING about anyone NOT in that class, and it's not fair to take a bet and suddenly extend the terms.

To me, this is analogous to someone saying "I'm the best XYZ [powerlifter, or bodybuilder, or wrestler or whatever] in New York state" and then having someone from Maryland challenge him. The guy from MD may be better, he might not, but it has no bearing on the validity of the NYers claim. The restriction "strongest PRO BODYBUILDER" basically says 'I'm not making claims about anyone else outside of this class, but within this class, I will make my claims.' That's why I feel it's analogous to someone saying, 'I'm not making claims about anyone else outside of this geographic area, but within this geographic area, I will make my claims.'

For the record, I am not saying anything about Nick. If Nick can break that it would be AWESOME. I think he should do a contest, it would be really really cool to see. and I wish him the best. It would be just like koklyaev putting up his own sick, sick raw total. Nick may feel that it's not worth it for one reason or another and that would be a shame, but if he did it, that would be something memorable, and somethign that would be remembered for many years.

[Easton Taylor]

Kevin that was nicely put and I hope Nick does do a show and breaks the record.

[Vincent Dizenzo]

Kevin, that was very nicely said. I'm a bigger fan of the expression "Put up, or shut up!"

[davebeers]

I know who you are referring to. And I'm not on any "side" that he is mroe powerlifter or more bodybuilder or whatever. I'm on the side that he put up a great raw total.

To the best of my understanding this got started because Johnny O always claimed (and with good reason, at least ronnie retired) to be the strongest bodybuilder. Ben white disputed that, Muscletech saw a chance to get some pub and set up a contest between the two. I think all of this is reasonable, because yeah, bodybuilding is about aesthetics, but it's nice to see who can perform too. Stan said 'hold on, if you're talking about strongest bodybuilder, why am I not included?' and put up the hummer and cash to prove it. Again, still about the bodybuilders here. All Stan did was say "hey, they're talking about pro bodybuilders. I'm in that class, I dont see anybody stronger than me in that class, and I'm willing to bet on it." He didnt say ANYTHING about anyone NOT in that class, and it's not fair to take a bet and suddenly extend the terms.

To me, this is analogous to someone saying "I'm the best XYZ [powerlifter, or bodybuilder, or wrestler or whatever] in New York state" and then having someone from Maryland challenge him. The guy from MD may be better, he might not, but it has no bearing on the validity of the NYers claim. The restriction "strongest PRO BODYBUILDER" basically says 'I'm not making claims about anyone else outside of this class, but within this class, I will make my claims.' That's why I feel it's analogous to someone saying, 'I'm not making claims about anyone else outside of this geographic area, but within this geographic area, I will make my claims.'

For the record, I am not saying anything about Nick. If Nick can break that it would be AWESOME. I think he should do a contest, it would be really really cool to see. and I wish him the best. It would be just like koklyaev putting up his own sick, sick raw total. Nick may feel that it's not worth it for one reason or another and that would be a shame, but if he did it, that would be something memorable, and somethign that would be remembered for many years.

to be fair stan hasn't competed as a pro bb'er yet. He probably wasn't included because he wasn't a time tested pro bb'er like white and jackson. He's in his early 40's also, not to say he can't progress but historically time isn't on his side

just a marketing ploy to sell supplements and it worked quite well

[Anthony Esquerdo]

Easton I didn't know you were on the B list so welcome back, no quarrels here so Nuff said.

Kevin Cronin Very well said.

Vincent Dizenzo always good to see you post here. SFW!!!

[Easton Taylor]

Kevin, that was very nicely said. I'm a bigger fan of the expression "Put up, or shut up!"

I agree, thank you for the warm welcome back Tony.

[Paul F.X. Armstrong]

Agree with kevin --Stan was left out of the worlds strongest body building contest/exhibition and he is legitimately an IFBB pro bodybuilder-

-Either Stan was genuinely disguntled or saw an opportunity to do some marketing--Stans vids and rhetoric during and after probably created more interest in the 'event' what actually transpired beween jackson and White--
Stan seems to be having fun with everything and hit that near record total for "free"$


It's seems to be a light hearted discusssion so I'll chime in-- I'm really impressed with Stans' Raw total--but I'd really like to see him give up the bodybuilder mentality and let his weight go up to 325+--he'd probably still look 'lean' and it would interesting to see what sort of a total he'd put up as a super heavyweight


FWIW Stan(if you read the forum)you'd drop back down to your BB ing physique in no time:p and i think your Super heavy Raw total would be "off the chart"--IMO your bench and Squat would really improve

-Whether we agree with 24 hour weigh in period or not--it is what it is--and Stan was in the 275lb 'class' when he hit that total--
-probably 290+ game day but fighters and other lifters do this all the time-
he has a big enough frame to put on a lot more mass

In other hyptheticals i'd like to see Misha hit a raw total-

Nick Best too
-and most interested in what Zydrunas could do-
Zydrunas hit that 2400,IPF(single)ply quite a few year ago- when he wasn't nearly as big or powerful as he is now-

[Kevin Cronin]

In other hyptheticals i'd like to see Misha hit a raw total-

Nick Best too
-and most interested in what Zydrunas could do-
Zydrunas hit that 2400,IPF(single)ply quite a few year ago- when he wasn't nearly as big or powerful as he is now-
Misha hit something crazy earlier this year. I know the dead was 892, wanna say the squat was 800ish and the bench 500ish?

[Brandon Smith]

Misha hit something crazy earlier this year. I know the dead was 892, wanna say the squat was 800ish and the bench 500ish?

Misha did a raw powerlifting meet in Russia back in December and went 794/463/892=2150

360kg raw squat
http://www.youtube.com/user/koklyaevmisha#p/u/18/_081S58BBdk
405kg raw deadlift
http://www.youtube.com/user/koklyaevmisha#p/u/20/6_ShHqLADwk
220kg raw bench (not from the meet)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0gE-2TjH8U&feature=channel_page