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Brendan
03-15-2005, 09:01 PM
What do some of the vets around here think of raw eggs? I've heard things both for and against them. For a while I heard that the protein is somehow undigestible when it is uncooked, due to the fact that the cooking kills some enzyme that inhibits absorption. On the other hand, I have seen links many times recently to articles touting new studies that show benefits of raw eggs? Any thoughts or personal experience on this one?
Jesse Marunde
03-15-2005, 10:33 PM
I've drank thousands of raw eggs. no ill effects. I now use egg whites from eggwhitesint.com. in a day or so I will have a banner up for them. great stuff, I highly recomend their product.
for the last month I've been slamming at least 20 egg whites a day in my shakes. awesome!
Jesse
AaRoNSnider
03-15-2005, 10:42 PM
A bodybuilder at my gym has been telling us to try raw eggs mixed with some oatmeal and I think milk.A couple of my friends tried it and said it tastes great.If you can stomach it,I say go for it and see how it treats you.I for one am a pansy when it comes to eggs and would probably puke
Brendan
03-16-2005, 10:33 AM
I have been going for it, and it's so cheap, and also a lot easier than cooking them. Making a 40 g protein shake actually tastes a lot better if it's 4 eggs and 1 scoop whey, than just being 2 scoops of whey.
Right now most of my protein is from raw eggs and tuna, with a little from whey. When im not trying to lose fat i drink ludricous amounts of milk, and it seems to work for me, despite what I read in an article on this board. I would try organic milk if i wasn't a lazy ass 18 year old not wanting to get a job... for now tho, i'm sticking to the cheap stuff. :D
Jacob Sauter
03-16-2005, 05:58 PM
Id personally go with cooked.
When eggs are boiled or cooked, the proteins in the eggs become denatured or transformed into a different shape. The denaturing of these proteins actually helps with absorption in the human body.
Albumen in the urine is a general sign, as studies show that a significantly higher amount of malabsorbed protein (egg) was found in the urine of healthy individuals (1). Stable isotope techniques are used to determine the digestibility of raw eggs vs. cooked eggs. In another study, using this method, it was demonstrated that the assimilation of cooked egg protein is efficient, albeit incomplete, and that the true ileal digestibility of egg protein is significantly enhanced by heat-pretreatment (2). Heat-pretreatment of course being cooked.
Not to mention you have a 1 in 30,000 chance to get salmonella from a raw egg. Also, if you blend raw eggs or whatever, you can break up the chemical bonds of amino acids where as cooking them can hook the bonds together, which inevitably is the objective.
(1) Amount and fate of egg protein escaping assimilation in the small intestine of humans.
Evenepoel P, Claus D, Geypens B, Hiele M, Geboes K, Rutgeerts P, Ghoos Y. Department of Medicine, Division of Gastroenterology, Gastrointestinal Research Centre, University Hospital Leuven, B-3000 Louvain, Belgium.
(2) Digestibility of cooked and raw egg protein in humans as assessed by stable isotope techniques.
Evenepoel P, Geypens B, Luypaerts A, Hiele M, Ghoos Y, Rutgeerts P. Department of Medicine, Division of Gastroenterology and Gastrointestinal Research Centre, University Hospital Leuven, B-3000 Leuven, Belgium.
You guys are going to love having BB here to help with your diet :p
Brendan
03-16-2005, 06:12 PM
I get some stomach aches and digestive problems from cooked eggs that i don't seem to get from raw.
Jesse Marunde
03-16-2005, 08:29 PM
as far as raw versus cooked eggs and usable protien... I don't know. I grow just fine off raw eggs. so I wonder about that validity of that arguement, though it sounds true enough...
Jesse
Paul Sazy
03-17-2005, 07:07 AM
I was told by a doctor to eat my eggs scrambled. He said the protein is more absorbable that way. Never had the desire to eat raw eggs.
Callie Marunde
03-17-2005, 10:48 AM
I've drank thousands of raw eggs. no ill effects. I now use egg whites from eggwhitesint.com. in a day or so I will have a banner up for them. great stuff, I highly recomend their product.
for the last month I've been slamming at least 20 egg whites a day in my shakes. awesome!
Jesse
NO ILL EFFECT??? EXCEPT THE HORRIBLE GAS!!! hahahahahhaaahahaheheh
CM
Jesse Marunde
03-17-2005, 11:43 AM
I'll have everyone know that I smell like roses...
Jacob Sauter
03-17-2005, 04:58 PM
as far as raw versus cooked eggs and usable protien... I don't know. I grow just fine off raw eggs. so I wonder about that validity of that arguement, though it sounds true enough...
Jesse
You would probably grow more off of slightly cooked. I mean, thats a case study from a University hospital. I could probably find more :shrug:
Rob Okey
03-23-2005, 11:14 AM
I used to drink raw eggs (6 whites, 2 yolks mixed with a dash of skimmed milk) and it seemed ok to me. I much prefer drinking them instead of cooking, however I have heard that you can cook egg whites at around 57 degrees (C not F) for 3 minutes, they stay liquid but the proteins have higher bioavailability. Yum!
After all, Rocky does it so it must be good?
:)
Grant Higa
03-23-2005, 04:17 PM
Whatever Jesse! Your ass stunk up the plane when you and Sarge were sitting by me to Van's contest in Utah last year! I was ready to rip the oxygen mask out of the ceiling.
Eric Todd
03-23-2005, 04:36 PM
When I was a kid I ate raw eggs cause I wanted to be like Rocky. Now I do just fine w/cooked egg whites.
ET
Callie Marunde
03-23-2005, 06:22 PM
yep higa right!! I sat in the back and still managed to be nausiated!! (spelling) It was very cute seeing the 3 largest men on the plane all snug together in one row!!! sarge jesse and higa!
CM
Grant Higa
03-23-2005, 06:37 PM
Now Callie, I heard stories about you too! Something about an Ohio trip...Pope was with Jesse in the car, and the Barking Spiders were nearby you or something. :p
Callie Marunde
03-23-2005, 06:38 PM
dude!! it was all the tuna!! :mad:
Callie
halsdad
03-23-2005, 08:28 PM
Not to mention you have a 1 in 30,000 chance to get salmonella from a raw egg. I am not sure where Jacob got the numbers, but I believe them. Think about it this way. For every 2500 dozen eggs a store sells there is, pardon the pun, a bad egg in the bunch.
1 in 30,000 odds are pretty much against you getting anything, but if you do.... You are looking at a very rapid weight loss program, you'll think you are half manure spreader and half dead, in fact you will probably wish you were. I think that I would rather eat 2 or 3 cooked to get what one raw would give as far as nutrition goes. Whatever you do is up to you, right? I'd have to say again that though the risk are slim, it wouldn't be worth it. I know two people who have had it (personally) one is a guy who was young and healthy and he said that he lost 24 pounds in 3 and a half days. The other was a healthy 50 year old lady who got it from some " tainted" ice cream and she, last I knew, was in a nursing home.
As a side note. I am kind of a germ-a-phob.
Jacob Sauter
03-23-2005, 09:07 PM
Not to mention you have a 1 in 30,000 chance to get salmonella from a raw egg. I am not sure where Jacob got the numbers, but I believe them. Think about it this way. For every 2500 dozen eggs a store sells there is, pardon the pun, a bad egg in the bunch.
1 in 30,000 odds are pretty much against you getting anything, but if you do.... You are looking at a very rapid weight loss program, you'll think you are half manure spreader and half dead, in fact you will probably wish you were. I think that I would rather eat 2 or 3 cooked to get what one raw would give as far as nutrition goes. Whatever you do is up to you, right? I'd have to say again that though the risk are slim, it wouldn't be worth it. I know two people who have had it (personally) one is a guy who was young and healthy and he said that he lost 24 pounds in 3 and a half days. The other was a healthy 50 year old lady who got it from some " tainted" ice cream and she, last I knew, was in a nursing home.
As a side note. I am kind of a germ-a-phob.
You have it backwards, the nutritional value in raw eggs is inferior :)
http://www.nutrition.org/cgi/content/abstract/128/10/1716
Jacob Sauter
03-23-2005, 09:11 PM
Also found this: Just trying to be objective.. I would still cook them though.
they are good to eat. Plus, since the yolk is raw your body will have no way to oxidize the dietary cholesterol so it will not impact serum cholesterol levels in the blood.
Just make sure the egg has no imperfections. One way you can do that it put some water in a pan and the place the egg into the water. The egg will sink to the bottom of the pan. If you see any tiny bubbles arise from the egg when it hits the bottom that means somewhere there is an imperfection (a crack) so it would not be a good idea to eat that egg raw. If no bubbles pop up knock yourself out.
Eric Johnson
03-24-2005, 07:53 AM
You have it backwards, the nutritional value in raw eggs is inferior :)
http://www.nutrition.org/cgi/content/abstract/128/10/1716
Good find, I felt like I was back in chemistry class :confused:
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