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Garrick Daft
04-08-2006, 11:30 PM
Anyhow I think that Pudzian is the one in the hall way (no one has one with as big a margen as when Mariusz did in 2003 Victoria Falls WSM and in an extremely tough crowd by any messure).

2003 - Victoria Falls, Zambia
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1. Mariusz Pudzianowski (Poland) 66 pts.
2. Zydrunas Savickas (Lithuania) 46 pts.
3. Vasyl Virastiuk (Ukraine) 43 pts.
4. Magnus Samuelsson (Sweden) 40 pts.
= Raimonds Bergmanis (Latvia) 40 pts.
6. Jarek Dymek (Poland) 38 pts.
7. Hugo Girard (Canada) 34 pts.
8. Jessen Paullin (Canada) 29 pts.
9. Svend Karlsen (Norway) 28 pts.
10. Geoff Dolan (Canada) 21 pts.

If Mariusz is dethrowned (big if) who will be next to take their place amoung the immortal greatest WSM ever, an AMERICAN?!!!!


Actually Mariusz does not have the best winning margin. This honor goes to none other then the original dominator, Bill Kazmaier. He won by 23.5 points for his first victory in 1980. Mariusz actually shares his record with the very first WSM winner Bruce Wilhelm. Wilhelm won by 20 points in 1977, the year Mariusz was born, and Mariusz won by 20 points in 2003...spooky!
When Mariusz lost in 2004 the point spread between 1st, 2nd, and 3rd was one point each. Mariusz was also later DQ'd from that contest due to negative doping test results. However he maintains that the new IFSA was after him because of his unwillingness to desert the WSM contest for the new contest the IFSA was developing. Vasyl and Zydrunas both abandoned the WSM in search of better riches and to chart another path. Mariusz stayed true to the WSM. 2005 brought back the American influence in the WSM. In this contest. Jesse Marunde became the first American to crack the top two since 1990. History has proven that it is very difficult to achieve the level of Kazmaier, Jon Pall, and Magnus. Victory in 2006 definitely favors Jesse Marunde in this regard and has a high possibility of being the year that the American WSM reemerges. However Mariusz is very determined to solidify his dominance in WSM history.
For fun the smallest margin of victory and loss goes to Jon Pall Sigmarsson, he won by a half point in 1990 and lost by a half point in 1983.

Ben Booker
04-09-2006, 08:48 PM
My bad :BB: ......You know your stuff......Anyhow...If anyone is to beat Mariusz I am confident that Jesse can.

Matt Brouse
04-10-2006, 09:44 AM
23.5 points... :mag:

Jesse Snadden
04-10-2006, 11:13 AM
I may be wrong but I believe the points system was different back then, hence the claim that Mariusz won by the biggest margin.


2003 was certainly an awesome year, 3 canadians in the finals. We were quite proud of that year.

james rude
04-10-2006, 11:41 AM
i think Vasyl and Zydrunas can beat Mariusz at any comp nowadays. Pfister did it at the arnold, too.

Jesse Snadden
04-10-2006, 11:46 AM
The arnold is a totally different contest than WSM. The events are completly different.

Garrick Daft
04-10-2006, 01:13 PM
Hey Jesse Snadden.. Hugo Girard rocks man! have you ever met him? He will be in the Super Series for WSM 2006 I think.

Jesse Snadden
04-10-2006, 02:13 PM
Yes I know him, he is and has been my mentor in this sport since I was 17. He will be at Mohegan Sun super series in June. I am competing against him on May 20-21st and also in a powerlifting meet on May 27th.

james rude
04-12-2006, 07:57 AM
The arnold is a totally different contest than WSM. The events are completly different.

that's why i said any contest. i think vasyl and zydrunas would beat him there as well, like they did in 2004.

Jesse Snadden
04-12-2006, 08:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesse Snadden
The arnold is a totally different contest than WSM. The events are completly different.



that's why i said any contest. i think vasyl and zydrunas would beat him there as well, like they did in 2004.

And how many times has Mariusz defeated both Vasyl and Zydrunas? Beating someone on occasion means nothing, beating someone consistently is how you judge. Mariusz has a much higher winning streak than either of the 2. WSM 2004 was a skewed contest. No disrespect to either Vasyl or Zydrunas, just that I don't think we can say they are better strongmen, maybe in the future.

JohnCarlsson
04-12-2006, 09:09 AM
that's why i said any contest. i think vasyl and zydrunas would beat him there as well, like they did in 2004.


I agree. Everyone says that the 2004 WSM was messed up, but the point system in the final was normal. The qualification heats had a retarded point system.

james rude
04-13-2006, 10:12 AM
It's too bad that the Arnold is the only show where they take top guys from both IFSA and TWI or SS or whatever they are called.

About Vasyl and Zydrunas, i think that Mariusz was better than them, but not anymore. his record against them was good before 04, but have the three competetd since then at a normal (non-Arnold) contest? hopefully they can get this @#$% unified so this debate can be more than opinion.