Snatch in a Contest

[Steve Slater]

What do you all think about a power snatch or full snatch being an event in Strongman?

[Scott Porter]

Bad idea.

It's an olympic lift. Leave it where it belongs.

[Garrick Daft]

How bout snatching a sleepy anaconda or python snake!!!

[Jesse Marunde]

I'd love it. cause I can snatch ;)

[Ben Booker]

I'm not to sure. Seems like that would be hard to judge because of proper form maybe. Strongman seems more freestyle.

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[Scott Porter]

I'm not to sure. Seems like that would be hard to judge because of proper form maybe. Strongman seems more freestyle.

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Are you serious?

If it's locked out it's a good lift in strongman. Doesn't seem hard to judge to me.

:confused:

[Ben Booker]

Are you serious?

If it's locked out it's a good lift in strongman. Doesn't seem hard to judge to me.

:confused:

Don't know to much about OLY, just was saying what I thought in regards to what I know which is not very much when it comes to snatch in a contest.

It is basically a the same as the first half of a c&j lift, but on the second pull it just goes strait to a lock out and skips the c&j? What if when they get it above their head it is not all of the way locked out and the lifter has to press it a little?

Again don't know to much about it and that is why I started with I'm not sure.

[Steve Slater]

Yes it would be easy to judge my 12 year old Oly. Lifting son could judge along w/ Jesse and as far as strongman it is a combination strength sport. I realize the snatch requires skill but with 10-12 weeks of practice the competitor would most likely become a better all round athlete with some carry over into other events. Maybe I'm just in the mood to snatch but in a contest I think it would stimulate a rush.

[Ben Booker]

Yes it would be easy to judge my 12 year old Oly. Lifting son could judge along w/ Jesse and as far as strongman it is a combination strength sport. I realize the snatch requires skill but with 10-12 weeks of practice the competitor would most likely become a better all round athlete with some carry over into other events. Maybe I'm just in the mood to snatch but in a contest I think it would stimulate a rush.

Sounds cool, but I was just thinking that a snatch would be somewhat subjective to interpratation of proper form in the judgeing. Don't know to much, but do practice the lift...just don't know to much about the OLY.

[Guillaume Dupuis]

Probably a continental press would be the ideal solution: use whatever technique, but get that 330# above your head :D This way, form becomes secondary in the judging process... but with a good technique, you can dominate the competition.

If technique would be at the center of your contest, what would you allow: clean and jerk, snatch? How would you handle someone that does a bit of a mix of the two styles?


... and use a 2" bar, now that's a kicker :EL:

[Scott Porter]

Ben, maybe you don't know, but strongman isn't about "form and technique".

[Ben Booker]

Ben, maybe you don't know, but strongman isn't about "form and technique".

Gee, realy scott. No $hit Sherlock.

Here is your award genius.

[Steve Slater]

I guess it would either be a good lift or not. You would have to stick it, lock out the lift in one motion unless there is an impingement in the elbow then the bar would have to be held under control in the semi locked position until you stand up right with Knees locked. It would be very difficult to hold the barbell overhead in a so called "cheating style" muscle position rather than bone on bone position as you would do in a proper lift. Its easier to perform the lift correct than to try to muscle it up. A 2" bar would probably destroy the wrists but not a bad thought as far as a twist. Good Question for Jesse.

[Ben Booker]

I guess it would either be a good lift or not. You would have to stick it, lock out the lift in one motion unless there is an impingement in the elbow then the bar would have to be held under control in the semi locked position until you stand up right with Knees locked. It would be very difficult to hold the barbell overhead in a so called "cheating style" muscle position rather than bone on bone position as you would do in a proper lift. Its easier to perform the lift correct than to try to muscle it up. A 2" bar would probably destroy the wrists but not a bad thought as far as a twist. Good Question for Jesse.

Thanks for the info. My buddy is very strong at everything except OHP because he broke his arm backward and shattered his elbow and now can't extend it all of the way, so that would be cool if he could show controll instead of being DQed for not being able to lock out. I was about to say that this 2" would be a cool twist.

[Jamie McEwan]

I think a DB snatch would be more reasonable and better to judge. As long as it was one motion straight up, even with a press out. But I guess it's really up to the event promoter. If some people don't like it they can either not come, or work hard and try their best anyways.

[Chris McNatt]

Want to have snatches in strongman?

Have atlas stone snatches :D


I think Snatches are cool to watch but then I'd rather see them in an Atlantis type of event rather than a strongman contest

[Steve Slater]

Instead of bumpers put atlas stones on the bar.. yes we have it.. A dumbbell is good. I guess the bumpers look bigger and would give an impression to the spectators that it is massive and heavy.

[Rus Mandery]

My body is very strong at everything except OHP because he broke his arm backward and shattered his elbow .
Wow, I think you need some sleep dude. Or maybe you should keep on top of that lithium and compazine.

[Ben Booker]

Wow, I think you need some sleep dude. Or maybe you should keep on top of that lithium and compazine.

I probably do need some sleep. I meant buddy not body. thanks for catching my dumb ass on that horrible miss-spelling, that is said wasn't even a typo just phonics gone horribly wrong.

[Scott Porter]

Gee, realy scott. No $hit Sherlock.

Here is your award genius.

Ok, I was trying to be nice, since you've been around for like what, 2 months, and have accumulated 400 posts you obviously are an expert on strongman.

Most of things I read by you make it seem like you are uninformed. Then you backstep when someone calls you out. You're 19 years old so it's not surprising. :BB:

[SqeezeMasterFlash]

I'm with Jamie. DB snatching could have it's place, if done for max weight. A two hand snatch, even the power version, requires alot of techinque to do properly, and isn't that interesting for an uninformed crowd. Besides, it's not like you'll some strongmen snatching 200kg unless you invite Koklyaev

[Matt Meinrod]

I think it's a good idea using Atlas stones or those old school deadlifting stones we used to see in competition in the mid 90's. I'd love to see DB Snatches because it's my favorite lift and I could see how I stacked up with the best of the best in the world.

I love the idea, but I don't see it happening without a twist (DB, Stones vs. Plates, thick bar, etc..)

[Carl Johnson]

I think an axle snatch would be a cool event.

[Patrick McGuffin]

What about an inch dumbell snatch, obviously with less weight but you get the picture.

[Tony Christopher]

Strongman lifts should be about lifting the heaviest possible weight, or doing the most reps, any which way you can.

Any lift that's technical ... where you'll have competitors having their lifts redlighted because their form wasn't correct, is a bad idea for a strongman contest.

I could almost go for a one arm dumbell snatch ... where the definition of snatch is simply that you can't rest the dumbell on your shoulder before pressing it.

But that's as far as I'd go.

[Steve Slater]

My wife just slapped my hand because I snatched the last piece of cheese cake.

[Garrick Daft]

I've been smacked for much less...mainly for looking stupid!

What noone wants to snatch a sleepy python!!

[MarkSikora]

While we were just training for the keg clean and press for New Mexico we attempted some keg snatches. Nasty.

see ya

Mark

[Steve Slater]

I guess for the most part it looks like the Dumbbell snatch would be better than barbell snatch. Easier to judge, could do for reps, maybe safer?, could use a 2" handle for a twist, pretty easy to train for and pretty fast to run. I'll put that on my list of events for the future.

[Guillaume Dupuis]

Yeah Steve, that sounds relly kewl: 2" dumbbell snatch, max rep.

If anybody gets more than 10 with a 100 pound DB, within 60 seconds, that would be a good number!

... unless you have a few sasquashes attending your contest with 6" fingers! But then again, it should be easy to recognize them, their wifes all have really big smiles :BB:

[Jonathan Macfarlane]

I'd be cool with a dumbell snatch for max. Anything barbell I don't think has a place in strongman. Rather do a 56lb WFH or somethign instead.

[Ben Booker]

Ok, I was trying to be nice, since you've been around for like what, 2 months, and have accumulated 400 posts you obviously are an expert on strongman.

Most of things I read by you make it seem like you are uninformed. Then you backstep when someone calls you out. You're 19 years old so it's not surprising. :BB:

I don't back step from anyone tuff guy, exspecially when I am face to face. I not some *@#$ing wuss tuff guy. I don't need a computer and a internet connection to step up.

Look Einstien, just because some has a different opinion, is a different age, and posts a lot, doesn't mean your better smarter and right about everthing. On some of your post you come across like some whinning little college no it all hippy that does private investigator work like someone's crazy girlfriend. Bro when people post an opinion they don't always wont some guy trying to analize whether or not they have the common sense to form an inteligent opinion opinion. Dude I'm sure there are jobs out there that you can get being a critic and you can analize why the director made, in your opinion, such a retarded movie because that is what it comes across like when you start doing these smarmy freaking remarks after someone says their not sure if it would be hard to judge something or not. If you want every one to know the wealth of info you obviously have then use a little more tact when you do so, and don't talk to people like they don't know their butt from a hole in the ground.

[Garrick Daft]

Please stop the crack talk on my bud Benny B. What's the deal man..he can post info and

you can reply back if you think he is wrong. But do it in a nice way bro. Ben contributes

a lot to this forum and I look forward to his replies. He as well as I have fun here and

don't look for trouble... you wanna crack talk go to any other forum, do it there...get it out

of your system and then come back here with a smile on your face. We like your posts

too Scott... even the "Earth to .... " posts.. hahahahahaha!

[Ben Booker]

Thanks G,

Just want a little respect, just like everyone else.

[Garrick Daft]

Some people it takes more time to earn their respect..if at all. You've got mine B. Scott's been around for a while... I don't know him but he seems knowledgable as do you and everyone else here...'cept me, I'm crazy and chase butterflies and bumblebees all day when I'm not on this forum..!!

That's a problem though..as this forum grows it will be harder for Jesse and others to keep everyone in line.

[Scott Porter]

I don't back step from anyone tuff guy, exspecially when I am face to face. I not some *@#$ing wuss tuff guy. I don't need a computer and a internet connection to step up.

Look Einstien, just because some has a different opinion, is a different age, and posts a lot, doesn't mean your better smarter and right about everthing. On some of your post you come across like some whinning little college no it all hippy that does private investigator work like someone's crazy girlfriend. Bro when people post an opinion they don't always wont some guy trying to analize whether or not they have the common sense to form an inteligent opinion opinion. Dude I'm sure there are jobs out there that you can get being a critic and you can analize why the director made, in your opinion, such a retarded movie because that is what it comes across like when you start doing these smarmy freaking remarks after someone says their not sure if it would be hard to judge something or not. If you want every one to know the wealth of info you obviously have then use a little more tact when you do so, and don't talk to people like they don't know their butt from a hole in the ground.

Thanks for proving my point...this will be my last response to you on this thread:

1. When I said backstep I wasn't referring to your "manhood" or "tuffness". It wasn't referencing whether you would stand up to someone face to face.

2. I never said I was better or smarter than you. Most intelligent people can make that observation on their own. HA! :EL:

3. Show me where I came across as some "whining college know it all hippy". Notice I said "know" and not "no" in that sentence.

4. If you want some respect, try being around for more than 2 months and having an opinion on everything. People tend not to listen to some 19 year old with 2 months of posting who has very little lifting experience. I happen to know a 19 year old on this board who posts very rarely though he is both smart and strong. He has my respect. I also know a 20 year old who is freaky strong who gives respect to me even though he's been in the strongman game years longer than me and pretty much makes me look like a girl when it comes to strength.

Summation:

I'll give you respect when you earn it. I don't hand it out. Just ask my training partners.

:M:

[Garrick Daft]

People tend not to listen to some 19 year old with 2 months of posting who has very little lifting experience. I happen to know a 19 year old on this board who posts very rarely though he is both smart and strong. He has my respect.

I'll give you respect when you earn it. I don't hand it out. Just ask my training partners.



Will you respect me? I want it badly baby...give it to me.. hahahaha

No just kidding man.. your cool. I don't have any ground to stand on cuz I'm just a fan...and only lift for enjoyment not to compete. I just do what I can to promote the sport and entertain... I leave the championship material to people like yourself and Ben. Don't sweat Ben though cuz he's contributing. He trains with Dannage so he must know something..I don't think Dan trains with just anyone.

Maybe if you trained with Ben someday you might respect him a little more...he doesn't live to far from you.

Sorry that this thread is off track.

I still wanna see someone snatch a sleepy python..!

[Ben Booker]

Thanks for proving my point...this will be my last response to you on this thread:

1. When I said backstep I wasn't referring to your "manhood" or "tuffness". It wasn't referencing whether you would stand up to someone face to face.

2. I never said I was better or smarter than you. Most intelligent people can make that observation on their own. HA! :EL:

3. Show me where I came across as some "whining college know it all hippy". Notice I said "know" and not "no" in that sentence.

4. If you want some respect, try being around for more than 2 months and having an opinion on everything. People tend not to listen to some 19 year old with 2 months of posting who has very little lifting experience. I happen to know a 19 year old on this board who posts very rarely though he is both smart and strong. He has my respect. I also know a 20 year old who is freaky strong who gives respect to me even though he's been in the strongman game years longer than me and pretty much makes me look like a girl when it comes to strength.

Summation:

I'll give you respect when you earn it. I don't hand it out. Just ask my training partners.

:M:


Alright tuff guy, you may not hand respect out, but if you hand disrespect out people are going to react in many different ways. This is just an internet forum so alls anyone can do is type, but in the real world things are different and if you don't respect someone enough not to disrespect them it is a different story. This is probably the safest way to make fun of people's grammer and inteligence, but the way I learned it growing up we didn't have computer to do our talking for use so if you wanting to crack on someone's inteligence you were face to face and it is a lot different that way. Take that how you want it, but that is my experience.

So I guess it is a different world on the internet, but I grew up giving everyone some kind of respect and deffinitly not disrespect (and will keep it that way, unless acted upon), but I see that is not how it is anymore.

[Ben Booker]

I done talking about this petty forum back and forth stuff. This isn't going to go anywhere pretty or productive and it is just words that you can keep typing and even spell check if you want.

Done.

[Garrick Daft]

Good Ben...get back to replying to my threads and others threads!! I miss your funny stuff man...

[Scott Porter]

Ben,

I don't feel I ever disrespected you. The intelligence comment was made in jest.

You don't have my respect (yet), but that isn't the same as disrespecting you. As I said, I don't just hand out my respect to someone.

You're right, this is just an internet forum. But if you want the respect of others like you said, you might try not making sarcastic remarks like this...

Gee, realy scott. No $hit Sherlock.

Here is your award genius.

See my point?

[Jamie McEwan]

I also think that if you used stones on a barbell snatch you'd end up with a lot of guys dropping the bar and shattering the implements. Might take a lot of time, and a lot of money to supply all the stones and change broken ones. Especially if it were for reps you could see someone drop the bar, shatter a stone, and have to stop mid-set. Just a thought, Steve. I'd do a DB snatch medley, mixing in a few varied handle widths.

Like this: 100lb 1", 110lb 2", 100lb 3", 140lb 1" for fastest time.

[Steve Slater]

Yea, thats good, I like that. I'll make note of it. Thanks all

[Chris McNatt]

when i meant atlas stone snatches i meant one atlas stone from the floor and then overhead

i like bigsac marc\ks idea of a keg snatch

[Brad Schofield]

Summation:

I'll give you respect when you earn it. I don't hand it out. Just ask my training partners.

:M:

this is very true. i puked evry workout for at least the first couple of months training strongman and have greatly increased my strength(for the most part) and yet...respect?...hardly any at all. its ok though. youre pretty much a bodybuilder anyways, so what do i need your respect for? HAHAHAHA!!! just kidding....but not really though :FF:

i enjoy training snatches but i think that it should really stay strictly in oly comps. only because strongman is not about how you make the lift, but making it anyway you can. as kaz would say you have to be a "thinking strongman" .

[Scott Porter]

To be fair, I do respect my good friend Brad. He definitely has the desire to be strong and there aren't too many people that will continue to train strongman after puking like 10 sessions in a row!

However, I do know he can be a lot stronger and get better and I have high standards. If he continues to put in the work, he'll have EARNED that respect.