Fat burners

[Corey Schaich]

Opinions on the best fat burners out there?

[Kevin McNease]

Medleys, sled drags, tire flips...

I've tried em all and there's no magical shortcut bottle.

Kevin

[Corey Schaich]

But it works in conjunction with activity correct???

[Kevin McNease]

I've heard the best is an ECA stack (ephedra, caffeine, aspirin). I dont know about ratios though. Someone else will have to tell you the ratios and frequency.
I limit my supplementation to protein and ephedra-free caffeine energy drinks like Red Bull. I dont know how well ephedra works but from what I've heard there's no comparison. I wouldnt bother with commercial fat burners, try the ECA stack.

Kevin

[Corey Schaich]

I know the ratios I am just interesed in others opinons and experiences with them. V/R

[davebeers]

heavy squats make me feel thermogenic all night long....sometimes i even wake up sweating in the middle of the night.

[Lee Horton]

ECA, Stimulant X, Amp are all good thermos. If you want a non stimulant fat burner i would stack any Sesamin product with Melting Point (TTA).

[ClayEdgin]

ECA, or at least the ratios I used, was too much for me and I was getting too short of breath while taking it. It actually hurt my max strength too.

Hydroxycut isn't bad, but the event training listed above is even better.

[Matt Meinrod]

Scorch and Vaporize are excellent

[Mac Smith]

Vodka!!!! :LOL: Burns like hell!!! :D:

[Andy Robinson]

Sida cordifolia complex, (10% Ephedrine), Guarana (22% Caffeine) and White Willow Bark (20% salicin). Safe if you stick to the dosage. It did get banned in America, even though you can still buy it, ECA was banned as a fat loss drug as far as I'm aware.

[Jordan Frantz]

Scorch and Vaporize are excellent


Kudos to you good sir. ;)

[Corey Schaich]

Hey MAC was that a Vodka ENEMA? LMAO :M: :LOL:

[Chris Mathison]

Sida cordifolia complex, (10% Ephedrine), Guarana (22% Caffeine) and White Willow Bark (20% salicin). Safe if you stick to the dosage. It did get banned in America, even though you can still buy it, ECA was banned as a fat loss drug as far as I'm aware.

ephedra was banned. ephedrine is the chemical form(manmade) and they can not sell it as a fat burner so they added guaifenesin and marketed it as a expectorant. (something that lossens flem in your lungs) or asma relief. but if your not asmatic it would explain why some people experience the opposite (shortness of breath). Ephedrine and caffeine work the best out there in my opinion but the side effects are not worth it. I know some people who experience terrible mood swings when they take ephedrine(they are not juicing), shortness of breath, sleeplessness and the list goes on. We all need the kick in the ass for training so drink black coffee or get caffeine pills. Caffeine is a central nervous stimulant and is one of the most researched drugs out there. its safe and effective. if its not doing the job for you. get off of it for a while, suck it up and lift without it. then when u get back on it. It will be extrememely effective. Hope im not breaking a rule posting the link but http://www.dmdpharm.com/go/ephedrine-based-asthma-treatment-andamp;-relief/ephedrine-plus%C2%AE is where u can still get ephedrine. If you are willing to ignore the side affects! remember to take aspirin with it to thin your blood and protect your heart.

[NickBrugal]

I don't take fat burners but I work at GNC and listen to peoples feedback all day long. I also see what resells and what dosn't. The fatburners with the best results are: Lipo-6, Hydroxycut Hardcore, and Redline, mabe Instone Leanfire but it depends on your bodytype. The ECA stack will probably give you the best results though. I hope this helps you.

[Matt Schumann]

YUP i agree, when i cut done b4 to about 3.7%BF i used ECA... Vasapro pure ephdrine gel tabs, large black coffee and an aspirin..... It really works.... IWhen i was into the whole cutting thing, i use to take every fat burner out there..... stacker 2w/ epd (probaly the best besides eca) redline, everything but when i switched to the whole ECA thing it made a major difference. I use to work for GNC and worked as a Cert. PT and i always recommended eca above any fat burners at gnc