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jon hergert
07-23-2006, 06:30 PM
I am looking for a 19" mold. Have Slater's 18" and 20" but if you are just using all concrete, big step from 240 lb to 345 lbs. I know i could add a foam ball or lead, but that is a lot more trouble making the stones and i am planning on making quite a few.
Not interested in the plaster of paris method either.
Any idea where i could find a 19" mold?
Jesse Marunde
07-23-2006, 07:22 PM
I'm in the same situation. that's actually why we're all so good at stones! ours start at 325. the 225's are just too light to even bother messing with...
Jesse
Richard Reynolds
07-23-2006, 09:33 PM
I am looking for a 19" mold. Have Slater's 18" and 20" but if you are just using all concrete, big step from 240 lb to 345 lbs. I know i could add a foam ball or lead, but that is a lot more trouble making the stones and i am planning on making quite a few.
Not interested in the plaster of paris method either.
Any idea where i could find a 19" mold?
I think they mention you can either add lead weights to make your 18" stone heavier, or Styrofoam to make your 20" lighter. The former seems like a lot of lead would be needed, and the stone may be off balance. The latter may make the stone more likely to break, but I don't know this for a fact.
Kevin McNease
07-23-2006, 11:56 PM
Most people I know have an 18" filled with lead or a 20" with a styrofoam ball. With lead you can get any weight you want in the 18" up to 300lbs and 310lbs with a ball in the 20". Standard plate weights work well instead of lead. Both work well and I havent had a balance or durablity problem yet.
Kevin
Richard Reynolds
07-24-2006, 10:54 AM
Most people I know have an 18" filled with lead or a 20" with a styrofoam ball. With lead you can get any weight you want in the 18" up to 300lbs and 310lbs with a ball in the 20". Standard plate weights work well instead of lead. Both work well and I havent had a balance or durablity problem yet.
Kevin
Thanks Kevin,
I've been thinking of getting a stone mold myself and was wondering if there were problems with either adding lead or styrofoam to change the weight of a stone. Good to know you've had no problems either way.
jon hergert
07-24-2006, 12:03 PM
i've seen a lot of 300 lb, 20" stones with styrofoam crack. Foam ball is really a pain, doesn't take off much weight, especially after you skewer it with rebar to hold it in the center. if you don't skewer it, it has a tendency to float to the top and then you really have cracking problems.
CharlesDMickey
07-25-2006, 12:42 PM
You’re right on with the foam ball. But I've had some success with drilling a small hole in the bottom of the mold and using heavy cotton string to hold the ball centered. But your right its still a pain for only a few lbs difference.
I've made a 290 out of my 18" with a big hunk of lead. (40lbs I think) and have only gotten as light as 315-320 with foam in my 20".
Clay Edgin has had some success with a concrete call Maximizer. http://www.maximizer.cc/ It looks promising, but as of now its not distributed in CA.
So since when are you worried about the jump in lbs from an 18" to a 20"???? Last time I checked you didn’t have a problem with a 340ish stone....
jon hergert
07-25-2006, 02:49 PM
So since when are you worried about the jump in lbs from an 18" to a 20"???? Last time I checked you didn’t have a problem with a 340ish stone....
Was looking to do a 5, 300 lb stone series to 54". 340 stones for that is going to be a little harsh. :FF:
i hadn't thought of the string, may give that a try if i can't find a 19" anyplace.
Brendan Merchant
07-25-2006, 08:22 PM
If you not using your 225's Jessie how about putting one in an envelope and sending it to Scotland for me.
I'm needing a paperweight to hold down all my wife's receipts from her latest shopping trip!
:mad:
Eric Johnson
07-25-2006, 09:59 PM
Is it possible to line a 20" mold with something like Great Stuff, spray it in and then sand it down to the thickness you want and smooth it out. Just a thought, there is probably something out there that could line a mold and not stick to the cement.
CharlesDMickey
07-26-2006, 10:02 AM
That Great Stuff is some Nasty Stuff!
I tried using it in place of a foam insert. Used a small "mold" and filled it with Great Stuff. After weeks it still had not cured through. After the stone broke; I cut into the Great Stuff core and it was still gooey. One the 02 hit it, it started to expand again and solidified.
I don’t think you could use it to line a mold. It would be very difficult to get even displacement. Then getting a nice seam between the tow halves would be difficult as well. Just some thoughts.
I've considered commercial fishing floats to lighten a stone. I just haven’t gotten around to checking it out.
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