respectible LW numbers

[craig kruse]

for the past year I have competed in the 200# class. For about a month before each contest I need to cut weight. This weekend I an in an event that is just LW and HW. I am weighing 210 right now and have loved not having to cut weight for the event. I am considering staying in the 231# class and not worrying about bodyweight.

What are some respectible numbers for the 231# class with max log, max deadlift, farmers walk for 100'

I don't want to get killed at each event just for the sake of not watching my diet.

[chrisklavette]

Good question! When you were competing in the 200lb class what were some good numbers?

[Adam Keep]

I compete in the 105k. class as well. The weights will differ from contest to contest, so being as fast as possible is key. Some stuff to shoot for would be a log press of 300lbs or more, this will put you very close to the top. In the clean and press for reps I'd say between 5 and 7 reps in 60 sec. Everything else you just need to be very fast and explosive. Since the equipment changes and so does the weight from contest to contest you really can't be certain what to shoot for.

[MarkSikora]

Craig,

You've competed before, so you know there is no real answer to that question. There are too many variables.

That said: your training log would indicate that you would be very competitve in most local contests for sure. (Gold level). As for pro am/platinum etc. I don't know, it depends on how your events are.

One thing I have seen in the couple of years I have been trying to compete: gym strength is not the best indicator of how competitive someone will be. Obviously the stronger you are, the better off you are. But....technique, speed, stamina, etc come into play also. I have seen stronger guys loose to "weaker" guys and vice versa, you really just never know until you get out there and do it.

If everyone just went by gym lifts, then nobody that I train with would ever finish better than dead last in a contest. Fortunately for us, that just is not always the case.

Sorry for the rant. You should do fine at 231 w/ your numbers. I am about your size and have competed at 231 (doing ok in one contest and getting crushed in others) and at 200 (doing ok in a couple of contests), and my gym lifts are no where near yours. So....bottom line, don't worry about it, you will do fine.

good luck

Mark Sikora

shoot, all that rambling and no real answer:

numbers: log-shoot man, if you can do 300 no doubt you would be at the top, I have seen 240 12" stop a lot of guys as a fourth implement in a medley. Mid 200's log for a couple of reps is good, I think. Now for better than good: guys are pushing the 300 barrier, upper 2's for sure.

dead: hard to tell. Regulation dead?- good guys are probably pulling 6's. better than good mid-high 6's. There is so much variation thought w/ 18" deads, car deads etc, it's hard to put a number on it. (Quick example/aside- at Clovis this year there was a car dead for reps. The best strongest deadlifters got many reps. (FF guys and powerlifter from Clovis area). After that, guys that have strong deads, but bad levers for the car, did not do so well. Then, shorter guys seemed to have an easier time than the taller guys who may have had stronger gym pulls. Point being: lots of variables. I got some reps on the car, where other, stronger guys, did not. So.......????????))

Farmers: good, I would say 250ish plus for 100 feet no drops fast. Personally, I think tha is what seperartes the "good" from the "bad ass": SPEED. There are a lot of guys who can do heavy farmers, overhead medleys, stones etc etc etc. But the guys that can do them FAST are the ones who win.

(Another quick aside/example: At Alburquerque this year. Team Big Sac's Charles Mickey and I believe Travis from NM finished the stone run. Then, Marc Wechter absolutely destroyed the stone run. It was unbelievable how much faster he was than the other competitors. So... they all had the strength to finish, but Wechter had the SPEED.)

Once again, sorry for the long rant, I am caffeined to the hilt right now.

Cliff notes: you can/will do well at 231.

speed kills (see AZ Desert Strength Team for examples, Team Big Sac is old and slow)

good luck

Mark

[Brandon Campbell]

mark hit it good SPEED!!!

For Lw pro shows good numbers to have on the main events our

300+ log, The most i seen a Lw do is 320. 300 will put you in the top 3 at msot Pro-am's and top placing i nthe BIG shows. for Gold and plat level 300+ will get ya first most the time with 260-280 being the norm. for reps being able to rep out 250-260 for 5+ is great, 220x12 240x8-10

For farmers in a pro-am 300+ is best, 280 is the norm. Expect 600-700lb frames. 240x100feet is normal for a Amatuer show

Deadlift 600+ is a big HELPER. you can stay competative with a 550-600 dead if your strong in other events. For lower level 550-600 is the norm for top placing,

Stones, being able to load up to 360lbs. 240-300 stones to high boxes.

yoke for pros is around 700-800 and 700 down for ams

Thats about all the basic events. Speed is always the determining factor of who wins in Lw pro's Most of them have maxed out there strength limits for 231lbs. So it comes down to who can move faster with the weight in most events. LW's are the most fun to watch because they move so fast.

Stay strong and work hard and you will do great no matter what so dont worry bout it :)

[craig kruse]

thanks for the input. I appreciate it.

Craig

[Matt Schumann]

alot of amatuer contest they use a 230lb log, usualy for reps...

stones usually 240 -300

cant really remember the other numbers,,, go one nastrongman.com and check out the contest results

[Adam Keep]

[QUOTE=Brandon Campbell]mark hit it good SPEED!!!

300+ log, The most i seen a Lw do is 320.


I've hit more than 320. It's not much more, but I did 322 and am now planning to hit 330+ in my next contest. A 300+ log is for the pro/ams. That's what most are aiming for anyways, that pro card. You are right though, 300 will put you at or very near the top in most competitions.

[benjamin d. moore]

I saw Ryan Myers hit a very easy 350 at not too much above 231. And Willie hit 330 w/ almost no leg drive a couple of weeks ago in St. Louis. He was weighing 238 that day.

[Brandon Campbell]

I saw Ryan Myers hit a very easy 350 at not too much above 231. And Willie hit 330 w/ almost no leg drive a couple of weeks ago in St. Louis. He was weighing 238 that day.

Saweeet. Lw's are strongest men on earth no doubt. For how much they weight and lift yea. you get the idea

[Adam Keep]

I saw Ryan Myers hit a very easy 350 at not too much above 231. And Willie hit 330 w/ almost no leg drive a couple of weeks ago in St. Louis. He was weighing 238 that day.


I've seen Ryan press as well and he is a pressing machine. His log for reps is out of this world. At lw nationals in 2005 he did 250 for 9 freaking reps! That was in 60 seconds! I need to get a log to train on. Here in Germany they always heve the wooden ones and they're like 14 inches around. So hard to press, but ultra easy to clean.

[Scott Porter]

I've seen Ryan press as well and he is a pressing machine. His log for reps is out of this world. At lw nationals in 2005 he did 250 for 9 freaking reps! That was in 60 seconds! I need to get a log to train on. Here in Germany they always heve the wooden ones and they're like 14 inches around. So hard to press, but ultra easy to clean.

He has obviously improved by leaps and bounds, b/c a "very easy 350 log press" equates to a lot more than 250 x 9.

[Eric Todd]

"He has obviously improved by leaps and bounds, b/c a "very easy 350 log press" equates to a lot more than 250 x 9."

That was clean each rep. I think he ran out of time. It was very impressive.
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[Adam Keep]

"He has obviously improved by leaps and bounds, b/c a "very easy 350 log press" equates to a lot more than 250 x 9."

That was clean each rep. I think he ran out of time. It was very impressive.
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Lets not forget about you Eric, your pressing is rediculous too. What's your max log been these days?

[Scott Porter]

"He has obviously improved by leaps and bounds, b/c a "very easy 350 log press" equates to a lot more than 250 x 9."

That was clean each rep. I think he ran out of time. It was very impressive.
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Oh okay, that is definitely different. Clean each rep and running out of time, sheesh!

[Eric Todd]

Lets not forget about you Eric, your pressing is rediculous too. What's your max log been these days?

Weak and crappy Adam, weak and crappy. I am just getting back from taking several months off to heal a herniated disk. It sucked.