Been waiting over a year for this viking movie..

[Ryan Rhodes]

.. and it's almost here. Can't wait.

http://www.pathfinderthemovie.com/

[Gags]

looks pretty bad-a$$

[AaRoNSnider]

That looks pretty good.I hadnt heard about it yet.Im going to have to check that out along with 300

[Ross Martin]

I am seeing that and 300.

[Rus Mandery]

I am disappointed at the way the vikings are portrayed in this movie. I feel that the looting, raping, pillaging and burning (in that order) of the Native Americans villages should have been shown to be the exuberant expression of love for their fellow man the vikings intended it to be. I, for one, will be rooting for the vikings!

[Elliot_Storey]

That looked pretty sick. They should have cast Ahola as the main character though.

[ADAMBAUER]

Looks good historicaly inacurate but looks good anyway this and 300 are on my must see list.

[Mac Smith]

Very historically inaccurate. The viking never attempted to conquer North America and according to records, they had very little contact with Native Americans. It is also inaccurate to believe that every Viking excursion to different areas where trips to rape and pillage. The Vikings weren't all conquerers but serious explorers. And because of the small amount of explorers on these trips to North America, it would be stupid to believe they would attempt to conquer such large, inhabited, land masses.

But the movie looks pretty cool. The 300 looks better in IMO, but I'll probably see this one as well. Only because Dan is my friend!!! LOL!!!!

[ADAMBAUER]

Yeah Mac you know how Hollywood is kinda like politicans never let the truth get in the way of a good story!

[Brandon Campbell]

remake of a movie made in the 1960's with lee majors, and im not joking. LOL. Same idea except they left a king behind and came back for him. Looks cool though anything thats not about comic books im happy about lol

[Scott Markowitz]

Not that this has *anything* to do with the movie, but...


The little historical account that exists of the Vikings in Canada suggests that the natives killed the inhabitants of the Viking settlement in what is now Newfoundland.

There is also some (limited and very sketchy) evidence of VIking explorers in more distant parts of North America - specifically Minnesota and Oklahoma. See http://www.sunnyway.com/runes/americanstones.html

[tackle78]

Don't forget about the viking ship discovered along the coast of Massachucets.( I know that is speeled horribly)

[Scott Markowitz]

Oh...I forgot Kennewick Man. That's a skeleton found in Washington (near - you guessed it - Kennewick) who was scientifically determined to be of European stock and had been killed with an arrow (they found the tip in his pelvis), but somehow the tribes up there convinced the Army COE that he was one of theirs, because anyone who was there in the 1300's *had* to be an Indian. Right now I think he's in storage in a museum somewhere until it all gets settled in court. NAGPRA sucks.

I was not aware of a ship in Massachusetts. I'll have to look that up sometime.

[Brandon Campbell]

as for the historical part about it its fairly well done. minus the freaky helmets and stuff. LOL they really just wore normal crap. But vikings did venture into north america before any other european decent travellers. Alot in canada, and the great lake states. There is even talk they ventured south to flordia and california.

It is hard to tell because these states were developed so fast alot of hte evidence is gone forever. But like any group of people there were good vikings and the ones who just wanted to kill things.

[Steve Ryan]

1300? DNA evidence suggests Kennewick man could be as old as 9,500 years old.. Spending the majority of this year studying native American migration in pre Columbus America, I will say that the Kennewick man being European (or what we know as European) is entirely false. Interestingly enough he does have "Caucasoid" features prominent in Europeans, but this is also the case with Natives of Japan (before the Japanese we know today). The original theories of hunting bands crossing the Bering straight from Asia is now being disputed heavily, and it is possible that the Native Americans thousands of years ago were much more diverse and migrated from many other places such as Polynesian (where DNA evidence has recently pointed to), and in much different time periods than one large migration of hunter gatherers from Asia. The history of Native American Migration and habitation of what we now know as North America is extremely complex, and i do not pretend for a minute to understand it entirely, but I can say with some confidence that Kennewick man is not European.

[Steve Ryan]

Oooo i sound like a kid whose milk money i would wanna take and give a wedgie to.

[Scott Markowitz]

Ouch. That's what I get for trying to talk about my wife's area of expertise.
My screwy dates notwithstanding, I stand behind my point. NAGPRA requires, before remains (or cultural, religious, or other items) are handed over, that a tribe establish either lineal descent or cultural affiliation. Neither was established with Kennewick man. Even if he was not European, and was (as you seem to suggest) Japanese, the fact that his features are unique among remains in the area tells us that he was "not from around there." (I'm not familiar with caucasoids in Japan, but this is not really relevant to this argument.) However, before he could be studied to any reasonable extent, the tribes jumped in and said "he's old, he's here, he must be one of us" and the COE jumped. I guess what I'm getting at is that while yes, we (Americans, particularly of European descent) did bad things to Indians, that doesn't mean they're always right and we're always wrong.

The "Asian nomads following a mastodon across the land bridge" theory has been under attack for some time. Thor Heyerdahl showed in 1969 that Egyptians could have made it to the Americas. There is also evidence that some Chinese made it to (and some made it back from) North America around the year 500. While I don't doubt that a couple of nomads might have made it here following food, I think it more plausible that people made it here from several places.

If anyone is looking for me, I'll be locked in my locker.

[Jay O'Neill]

Oooo i sound like a kid whose milk money i would wanna take and give a wedgie to.

Steve... i don't think anyone is gonna try to steal your milk money... it's safe. haha.

However I will say it looked as though one of the Vikings was Hitching a deadlift... so I wouldn't waste my money on this movie.... sorry wrong thread. :B:

[Joshua Davis]

I tried to watch the original Pathfinder movie with Lee Majors. He totally had the molester/policeman mustache going on, with the horned helmets to boot. I lasted about 3 minutes into the movie. I can't watch a movie about a viking that looks like a 80's miami coke merchant.

The old "Vikings" movie with Kirk Douglas was a masterpiece for it's time. It's kinda sad the only thing we have to compare it to is the 13th Warrior.

[ColinStubbert]

that looks pretty amazing.

[Eric Johnson]

Oh...I forgot Kennewick Man. That's a skeleton found in Washington (near - you guessed it - Kennewick) who was scientifically determined to be of European stock and had been killed with an arrow (they found the tip in his pelvis), but somehow the tribes up there convinced the Army COE that he was one of theirs, because anyone who was there in the 1300's *had* to be an Indian. Right now I think he's in storage in a museum somewhere until it all gets settled in court. NAGPRA sucks.

I was not aware of a ship in Massachusetts. I'll have to look that up sometime.

I worked with (and am still friends with) the guy (Will Thomas) who found Kennewick Man (I was born and raised in Kennewick). The real story on how he found him is pretty funny.

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The whole plrocess where the Indians claimed him and the site as an official burial ground is BS. Why the government let the COE come in and bury the site under rock without furthur exploration/research is beyond me. Having worked on the government Hanford site here, you would not beleive some of the crap (and tax payer money spent) done to "appease" the indians. The one that always gets me is returning the area back to its natural state, which includes planting sage brush!
</Rant>

[Jim Glover]

Totally off topic

But HOLY CRAP Eric you are looking freaking massive in that profile pic.

How much mass have you put on?

You look a doggone viking.

[Brandon Campbell]

I tried to watch the original Pathfinder movie with Lee Majors. He totally had the molester/policeman mustache going on, with the horned helmets to boot. I lasted about 3 minutes into the movie. I can't watch a movie about a viking that looks like a 80's miami coke merchant.

The old "Vikings" movie with Kirk Douglas was a masterpiece for it's time. It's kinda sad the only thing we have to compare it to is the 13th Warrior.


LOL i totally agree with ya dude, I thought hte same thign when i watched it. Not only did he have a mustache but the acting was horrible as was the story line. "Vikings'" with kirk douglas though is a very historcially accurate movie, for what they knew at hte time about vikings i think.

[Mac Smith]

1300? DNA evidence suggests Kennewick man could be as old as 9,500 years old.. Spending the majority of this year studying native American migration in pre Columbus America, I will say that the Kennewick man being European (or what we know as European) is entirely false. Interestingly enough he does have "Caucasoid" features prominent in Europeans, but this is also the case with Natives of Japan (before the Japanese we know today). The original theories of hunting bands crossing the Bering straight from Asia is now being disputed heavily, and it is possible that the Native Americans thousands of years ago were much more diverse and migrated from many other places such as Polynesian (where DNA evidence has recently pointed to), and in much different time periods than one large migration of hunter gatherers from Asia. The history of Native American Migration and habitation of what we now know as North America is extremely complex, and i do not pretend for a minute to understand it entirely, but I can say with some confidence that Kennewick man is not European.


Just to expound on this very interesting discussion, there are carvings and stone statues of people with 'African' features in South American that are dated over 5000 yrs ago. IMO opinion, the Vikings were the greatest of explorers but because they werent' doing it for the glory, but merely for the benefit of their people. But others did the same, like the Africans, Polynesians, and Asians. We all have a little explorer in our blood. We are a lot more alike than different, people!!!!

But for FYI, the 300 opens in a couple week!!! I'm freakin stoked!!!!!!

[Sahwn Kenny]

we've gt to wait till the end of march for this (300)

Can't wait :D

[Eric Johnson]

Totally off topic

But HOLY CRAP Eric you are looking freaking massive in that profile pic.

How much mass have you put on?

You look a doggone viking.

LOL, thanks, I am actually down about 20 lbs from this time last year. I have decided to lean up a little. And while I have lost weight and some strength, the muscle mass seems to stay steady or going up a little :D .

[Patrick McGuffin]

I am pretty sure that the native Caucasians of japan are called the Ainu and were pretty much wiped out when all to the Chinese and Korean settlers came in to create Japan, except a few small settlements on Hokkaido that are protected like Indian reservations are here.