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Michael Douglas - uk
03-23-2007, 05:08 PM
Hi guys,

does anyone share my concern of the future of british strongman, now that IFSA doesnt have a top class young british strongman in its stables ?

oli t - seems to have jumped ship, alongside dazzling darren saddler.

let me explain myself properly before i start a potential riot, no disrespect to anyone connected with BSM and UKSC, but i think that since IFSA lost control of BSM its just not the same, and when i watch UK strongest man on tv it just looks very amaturish.
This years BSM was a good show but its just lost that spark for me, having sven as a referee was good to see, but i personally would like to see gary taylor or even jamie reeves running the show again as these guys were WSM winners, and no disrespect to frazer but he hasnt won wsm.

I know dougie gets a lot of stick, but i dont think you could deny he has a talent for spotting world class strongman.

Its good to see more british strongman competiting in super series but even so they are not truely world class yet as they are not competiting against the best.

One finally think,whatever happened to gregor edmunds, does he still compete in strongman ?

matt harrison
03-23-2007, 05:37 PM
Eh what Eh ?

Just because they are not part of IFSA does not make them any less a strongman. Your posts makes no sense it's like your saying if your not part of IFSA then your not a world class strongman.

If they no longer want to be part of IFSA there is a reason and dougie edmunds is not the man you think he is.

Michael Douglas - uk
03-23-2007, 06:01 PM
I didnt mean any disrespect to any of the strongman in the uk, i just meant that IFSA have the strongest athletes, and i believe that marius lost alot by not competiting against the strongest men in the world, i think that the progress oli and mark felix have made in the last fews was amazing and perhaps this was down to IFSA, maybe im wrong and i suppose the only people who could answer this oli and mark.

As for dougie edmunds, i have no idea what goes on behind the scenes in strongman, and as ive said before im purely an armchair fan, so perhaps i am wrong in what i say, but it is merely my opinion and as a member im entitled to express it.

All i know is that since dougie has left wsm and bsm the standard has dropped, and strongmen who are competiting and getting podium finishes in the new wsm are not the strongest in the world. so even if dougie has ripped off strongmen or whatever it is he does the competition just isnt the same, and as a fan it disapoints me.

Terry_hollands
03-24-2007, 03:06 AM
Different board but the same old rubbish your posting!!!

How you can say that the standard at BSM has dropped in the in the last couple of years is beyond me!!! If you honestly think that the likes of Richard Gosling, Glenn and some of the other guys could mix it these days you are very much mistaken.

As I told you before the fact that the Britains is not as big as it used to be is purely down to sponsorship!! NOT BECAUSE IFSA ARE NO LONGER INVOLVED!!!

I understand you have your opinions about where the best guys are and that is fair enough but when you post things like this again and again and again (just on different forums) it just get boring!!!

Jamie.H.
03-24-2007, 04:19 AM
I personally think we have good quality strongmen, Darren Sadler I think is one of the strongest men in the world for bodweight to weight lifting ratio.

Oli Thompson is very strong, could do very well at this years WSM if he comes back from his injury.

I see your point about not having a world class strongman in recent years, as we haven't had a strongman finish in top 3 since Gary Taylor won I don't think.

But to be honest I think it's going to change soon.

Jamie.H.

Michael Douglas - uk
03-24-2007, 06:00 AM
Different board but the same old rubbish your posting!!!

How you can say that the standard at BSM has dropped in the in the last couple of years is beyond me!!! If you honestly think that the likes of Richard Gosling, Glenn and some of the other guys could mix it these days you are very much mistaken.

As I told you before the fact that the Britains is not as big as it used to be is purely down to sponsorship!! NOT BECAUSE IFSA ARE NO LONGER INVOLVED!!!

I understand you have your opinions about where the best guys are and that is fair enough but when you post things like this again and again and again (just on different forums) it just get boring!!!

I can say that the standard has dropped because IN MY OPINION it has dropped, and when i said standard i didnt necessarly mean the standard of strongman, i meant the standard to which the competition is run, its no where near the high standards we have seen in years gone by, and i couldnt possibily make a comparison to the strongman you have mentioned compared with todays athletes because it would be stupid, people are getting stronger every year and this is down to better trainning, nutrition etc.

If your bored of my comments then dont reply, i have constantly repeated myself on many forums because i like to talk about this subject. I think your out of order having a dig at me, because i am merely offering my opinion, which i accept could be wrong but it is my opinion, and if everytime someone posts something you dont agree with then your just going to either accept it or ignore it.

michael

Michael Douglas - uk
03-24-2007, 06:06 AM
I personally think we have good quality strongmen, Darren Sadler I think is one of the strongest men in the world for bodweight to weight lifting ratio.

Oli Thompson is very strong, could do very well at this years WSM if he comes back from his injury.

I see your point about not having a world class strongman in recent years, as we haven't had a strongman finish in top 3 since Gary Taylor won I don't think.

But to be honest I think it's going to change soon.

Jamie.H.

I suppose my point was based around the fact that in dougie edmunds we had the most influencial man in strongman based on our doorstep, and since the split i cant see many comps taking place in the uk which is quite sad as dougie did use his influence to bring some of the worlds strongest men to the uk and to think this may not happen is quite sad, as i would have liked to watch to comp in the uk with the strongest men in the world taking part.

Oli Thompson, again in my opinion this guy will get a podium finish at the worlds this year.

and again in my opinion, darren saddler could potentionally be the next wsm from the uk, the guy is made of pure raw strength.

Jamie.H.
03-24-2007, 11:05 AM
Oli Thompson, again in my opinion this guy will get a podium finish at the worlds this year.

and again in my opinion, darren saddler could potentionally be the next wsm from the uk, the guy is made of pure raw strength.

Too right, Oli will get podium finish and I think you could be correct about Darren, only thing is he needs to up his bodyweigh to around 120kg, possible in one year I don't think so but in next couple of years yes.

Jamie.H.

matt harrison
03-24-2007, 11:15 AM
I suppose my point was based around the fact that in dougie edmunds we had the most influencial man in strongman based on our doorstep, and since the split i cant see many comps taking place in the uk which is quite sad as dougie did use his influence to bring some of the worlds strongest men to the uk

You really have no clue what so ever what you are talking about. There are loads of comps in the uk.
What big comps as Edmunds, the man you call the most influencial man in strongman , The man you say brought the worlds strongest men to the Uk :M: put on in the UK in recent years?

Mike Betty
03-24-2007, 04:58 PM
From what i can remember Isfa ran 5 comps in the uk a North and south BSM qualifier the Englands, Scotlands strongest man and the British that was it. Can't remember a International event being held here for the last 10 years apart from the one Terry is holding later this year.

Personally i think that the strongman scene is getting better every year.

Michael Douglas - uk
03-24-2007, 06:55 PM
You really have no clue what so ever what you are talking about. There are loads of comps in the uk.
What big comps as Edmunds, the man you call the most influencial man in strongman , The man you say brought the worlds strongest men to the Uk :M: put on in the UK in recent years?


im not even going to answer that mate, theres just no point !

Michael Douglas - uk
03-24-2007, 07:00 PM
Too right, Oli will get podium finish and I think you could be correct about Darren, only thing is he needs to up his bodyweigh to around 120kg, possible in one year I don't think so but in next couple of years yes.

Jamie.H.

darren saddler will be wsm someday, if the split still exists, and as for oli, im guessing hes spotted an oppurtunity with the weaker athletes competiting with wsm and will probably get a 2nd place if not a 1st.

from my point of view it was dissapointing to see sven, phister and magnus and hugo jump ship, because they have seen an opportunity to win a comp, that was once the greatest !

Josh Kamins
03-24-2007, 11:02 PM
and WSM wasn't once the greatest?

Terry_hollands
03-25-2007, 02:16 AM
If your bored of my comments then dont reply, i have constantly repeated myself on many forums because i like to talk about this subject. I think your out of order having a dig at me, because i am merely offering my opinion, which i accept could be wrong but it is my opinion, and if everytime someone posts something you dont agree with then your just going to either accept it or ignore it.

michael
The point is with all due respect it would be like me commenting on Ballet dancing which is something I know nothing about.

Also it's not a discussion all you do is post up about IFSA guys being so much stronger etc. etc. and people disagree with you and all you do is say that is my opinion.

Fact is I told you maybe a year ago on Brute strength reasons behind the Britains not being run in the WSM format and it has nothing to do with Dougie Edmunds not being in-charge anymore.

There is A LOT more reasons for guys leaving IFSA than you would know about (believe me it's not because they think the standard is worse). Have you ever wondered why there are so many guys crossing over one way and not back the other, I know before you say it none of us Super-Series guys are good enough.

matt harrison
03-25-2007, 07:33 AM
im not even going to answer that mate, theres just no point

No come on you knob answer the question.
When as Edmunds brought lets say savickas and vasyl, the top 2 IFSA men, to compete in the uk?

Read Terrys post and stop swinging from Edmund's dangling sacks

Michael Douglas - uk
03-25-2007, 08:15 AM
No come on you knob answer the question.
When as Edmunds brought lets say savickas and vasyl, the top 2 IFSA men, to compete in the uk?

Read Terrys post and stop swinging from Edmund's dangling sacks


knob ? good one, good work.

D.Norris
03-25-2007, 09:28 AM
Only 1 big international comp dougie has brought to the uk in the last 10-15 years ago and that was partly run by glenn ross in Ireland!

strongwoman
03-25-2007, 10:57 PM
Not quite right Dale. Douggie and David Webster had a super series competition (which was shown on Eurosport) in Aberdeen in 2002. I was there to watch Hugo, Svend, Janne, Martin, Dymek and some others battle it out.

They also had a women's competition with Jill Mills, Heini, Jackie Young and all the other top women there!

Hanne