brain storm or brain fart...

[dronga]

has anyone ever competed in or ran a competition where the competitiors did not know any of the events until the day of the comp? sounds like fun to me...

[Mike Landrich]

has anyone ever competed in or ran a competition where the competitiors did not know any of the events until the day of the comp? sounds like fun to me...

There was a thread like this months ago. I think it'd be a great idea. If I were to run a show like that next year, would you make the drive to the Buffalo area?

[dronga]

There was a thread like this months ago. I think it'd be a great idea. If I were to run a show like that next year, would you make the drive to the Buffalo area?
i think its a cool idea, really level the playing field. i think you should always be ready for anything!

[Billy Wolt]

or even better....pick the events randomly day of show.... :D

[Dan Harrison]

I vote "brain fart" on this one. There's lots of different equipment a competitor would have to bring depending on the events and who wants to bring 9000 different things in case a certain event is chosen? I for one woul dneed a much different bag of supplies if I were doing a show with log, farmerswalk, conan's wheel, stones, and truckpull versus a show with viking press, heavy framecarry, heavy yoke, car hold for time, and deadlift.

[dronga]

I vote "brain fart" on this one. There's lots of different equipment a competitor would have to bring depending on the events and who wants to bring 9000 different things in case a certain event is chosen? I for one woul dneed a much different bag of supplies if I were doing a show with log, farmerswalk, conan's wheel, stones, and truckpull versus a show with viking press, heavy framecarry, heavy yoke, car hold for time, and deadlift.


what you are stating, but i am always prepared as many others are. i always bring my two gym bags full of equip. to every comp. i compete in. we train for every event, why not be prepared for every event.

[Ryan Brown]

I'm not sure if it levels the playing field; in fact, likely the opposite unless there is some sort of lottery like way to pick the events on the day of; otherwise you can be assured that the local guys will have an edge.

Picking on the day of is not really practical to me having run several contests. There is so much involved in planning for the events--where they will be done; who will judge them, etc. Acquiring the equipment, Bringing the equipment, etc. Little details that most people just take for granted--like where is the start line for a particular event, do you have all the clips you need; do the loaders have the proper weights for the changes, etc.

Maybe a guy like Chad Coy who has a gym and lots of equipment could do it; but most promoters could not do it effectively IMO.

[dronga]

I'm not sure if it levels the playing field; in fact, likely the opposite unless there is some sort of lottery like way to pick the events on the day of; otherwise you can be assured that the local guys will have an edge.

Picking on the day of is not really practical to me having run several contests. There is so much involved in planning for the events--where they will be done; who will judge them, etc. Acquiring the equipment, Bringing the equipment, etc. Little details that most people just take for granted--like where is the start line for a particular event, do you have all the clips you need; do the loaders have the proper weights for the changes, etc.

Maybe a guy like Chad Coy who has a gym and lots of equipment could do it; but most promoters could not do it effectively IMO.


everyone is missunderstanding me. i'm not saying for the promoter to pick the events the day of the comp., i'm saying that the competitors would not know the events until the day of. promoters have enough crap to do organizing a comp., the last thing i want to do is make a promoter bring a 40 foot tractor trailer with equip. for 20 events, and then pick five.

[Ryan Brown]

everyone is missunderstanding me. i'm not saying for the promoter to pick the events the day of the comp., i'm saying that the competitors would not know the events until the day of. promoters have enough crap to do organizing a comp., the last thing i want to do is make a promoter bring a 40 foot tractor trailer with equip. for 20 events, and then pick five.

I understood. That was my first point--that if they are not picked the day of the comp it is unrealistic to think that the promoter will be the only one who knows the events. His entire training crew and friends will almost by necessity wind up knowing what the events will be. In my case I can't imagine how I could pull off a show and keep it a secret from my crew what the events would be. If I were a competitor in such a show I would be highly suspicious that if I didn't know what the events were that some of the other guys did.

In theory I agree though that it is a cool idea.

[Billy Wolt]

everyone is missunderstanding me. i'm not saying for the promoter to pick the events the day of the comp., i'm saying that the competitors would not know the events until the day of. promoters have enough crap to do organizing a comp., the last thing i want to do is make a promoter bring a 40 foot tractor trailer with equip. for 20 events, and then pick five.

yea, but that promoters crew might know the events, then people will be complaining about it.

[dronga]

yea, but that promoters crew might know the events, then people will be complaining about it.


please everyone all of the time!!

my point is i think it would be alot more intense if the competitor was told the events list during the rules meeting prior to the comp.

[Billy Wolt]

please everyone all of the time!!

my point is i think it would be alot more intense if the competitor was told the events list during the rules meeting prior to the comp.


i know...that's why i say pick events day of...

a promoter need not bring everything...some equipment can be used for multiple events

a log, for example can be for max weight or reps
stones, normal run or reps
yoke, farmers can all have various distances/weights (or do yoke press)
axle, reps or weight
tires for distance/time/max flips
etc

A promoter can bring a normal amount of equipment for a show, and have 15 events to randomly choose from that relate to that equipment.

[Scott Markowitz]

How about do the event-picking a few days or a week out? That'd give time to plan which gym bag for the competitors to bring and which equipment for the promoter to bring, without having the whole "six months training for this contest" or "selecting which contest to compete in based on the events" stuff.

[dronga]

How about do the event-picking a few days or a week out? That'd give time to plan which gym bag for the competitors to bring and which equipment for the promoter to bring, without having the whole "six months training for this contest" or "selecting which contest to compete in based on the events" stuff.


scott. i know everyone is saying how they would need time to pack essential equipment and aids, but in my own honest opionion, you should always be ready for anything. for example, what happens if a comp. has an outdoor event, and on that day it rains or snows and the event has to be changed, this is why i say, be ready for anything.

[Scott Markowitz]

I agree totally. My "contest stuff" consist of chalk, tacky, and belt. For those with a different approach (metros like Harrison who need a particular type of hair gel depending on the event) I would think a day or two would be sufficient time to visit the salon and pack, though.

[DaneGarreau]

I am still curious as to how this would help "even the playing field".

I mean, wouldn't it be even enough if everyone knows the events?

Having said all that, I wouldn't object to competing in a contest like this.

[Billy Wolt]

I am still curious as to how this would help "even the playing field".

I mean, wouldn't it be even enough if everyone knows the events?

Having said all that, I wouldn't object to competing in a contest like this.


i guess it would limit people picking contests based on events/weights.

[dronga]

i guess it would limit people picking contests based on events/weights.

my thoughts exactly.

[DaneGarreau]

i guess it would limit people picking contests based on events/weights.

Is this really a problem though? So what if someone doesn't enter a contest because they don't like the events.

I imagine the same people will not show up to a unknown events show as well. IMO it won't do much to solve the "problem".

However, it would make training for a contest like this fun and new.

[dronga]

that when you get to the competition, thats when you find out whats going on, i think sometimes it gets a little monotinous that we always see the exact events and wieghts. thats just my $.02.