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craig kruse
08-16-2007, 02:15 AM
I know we never have control over the events and it is strongman so quit my complaining but these are strange events to have for nationals (especially with this year going to be so big).
I am disappointed with the kettlebell press, yolk walk, and tire flip. I think these will be hard for a majority of the competitors to train for. Maybe that evens out the playing field. I don't know. Maybe I should just shut up and train harder

I am disappointed that the events aren't similar to what everyone trains and sees at each contest. I am surprised there is not a log or axel press, no carry/ drag medley, no truck pull, no deadlift.

I guess if I had a tire, yolk, and big kettlebell I would feel differently.

I guess this isn't that different than the LW Pro nationals.

Ian Duggan
08-16-2007, 02:59 AM
They just seema bit... dull.

Like you say, where's the truck pull or the log / axle event? Both competitors and spectators love those. The tire flip... I know it's a strongman classic and all, but by 'eck it ain't half dull to watch. Seems to be the event that causes most injuries too.

Kevin Cronin
08-16-2007, 04:56 AM
both competitors and spectators love the truck pull? The truck pull is a bs event! Unless you're pulling uphill the only strength portion of it is breaking the inertia of the truck, then it's a footrace. At my last contest with a truck I asked a girl who was watching strongman for the first time what her favorite event had been and she said that it HAD been the truck pull until she realized all the competitors were coming within hundredths and tenths of a second to one another, so it must not be that difficult... The tire tho ... i always thought people loved those?? IF you can get two tires it's uaually a pretty close race; additionally, tires are visceral and REAL to people. Nobody (who doesnt lift) knows whether a 570 deadlift and a 290 overhead are world class, middle of the pack or phenomenal, they dont have anythign to compare it to. But a gigantic truck tire is visually appealing and grabs them.

Craig, I can understand being disappointed with the kettlebell, but I consider the yoke and tire to be strongman classics, dont you? Sure tehy are tough to train without the implements, but so would a log and so would a truck pull ... not sure why you singled those two out?

I guess I'm just surprised and a little disappointed at the number of people down on the events. I LIKE doing stuff I've never heard/done before - such as the kettlebell and farmers for max distance. If every contest was 12" log, barbell deadlift, farmers and stones I'd get bored REALLLY REALLY quickly; the variety of strongman is, to me anyway, half the fun.

DaneGarreau
08-16-2007, 05:42 AM
I'm with Kevin, personally I hate watching and doing a truck pull(then again I suck at it).

I like the events for nationals, a decently well rounded contest(with the exception of no DL).

Wayne Meyer
08-16-2007, 05:50 AM
I looked on the NAS website and didn't see the events??? Where are they listed?

brianwalsh
08-16-2007, 05:50 AM
craig lance's is supposed to have a tire and yoke once the new one opens so i plan on training there once a week. i would figure the farmers for distance tire and yoke would all be very good events for you. either way i know training for nationals will be a challenege and a blast. all these movements events will force me to do more conditioning and lose my baby fat.

D.J. Satterfield
08-16-2007, 06:37 AM
Wayne,
Go to the anvil under the Nationals thread, Dione listed the events, just not the weights.

Ryan Brown
08-16-2007, 07:14 AM
I know we never have control over the events and it is strongman so quit my complaining but these are strange events to have for nationals (especially with this year going to be so big).
I am disappointed with the kettlebell press, yolk walk, and tire flip. I think these will be hard for a majority of the competitors to train for. Maybe that evens out the playing field. I don't know. Maybe I should just shut up and train harder

I am disappointed that the events aren't similar to what everyone trains and sees at each contest. I am surprised there is not a log or axel press, no carry/ drag medley, no truck pull, no deadlift.

I guess if I had a tire, yolk, and big kettlebell I would feel differently.

I guess this isn't that different than the LW Pro nationals.

other than the kettlebell press that's about as standard as it gets IMO. Farmers, stones, tire and yoke are likely the four most popular and long running strongman events.

ClayEdgin
08-16-2007, 07:16 AM
I like the event selection. Makes me think I have a fair shot at doing pretty well this year. I mean, a farmers for max distance? SCHWING!!! A yoke for 80ft by itself and a tire flip for 60' by itself tells me that they're going to be heavy. Like 800 and 1000 respectively.

So yeah, I'm hoping to do well. But if you ask Mac Smith, he'll say "Always bet on BLACK, brotha!" haha

dronga
08-16-2007, 07:17 AM
I posted this in another thread, but I think this would be a great event for people watching, plus it fits in with the theme of Vegas.

Billy Wolt
08-16-2007, 07:23 AM
KB press....wtf?

i suppose if it were a bottoms up press i could hang with the big boys :)

Dane Kelley
08-16-2007, 07:51 AM
these events are to standard plus its vegas lets do something off the wall.
show girl squat or silver dollar deadlift would be kick a$$
fingal finger, power stairs medley
block lift (over head)
carry medley farmers, yoke, frame or wheelbarrow
stones are great but they are at every contest do an odd object load
slot machines, blocks, sandbags, kegs, chain link, or other objects that represent vegas

or something to that effect, or hell unleash a new event on us

the current events maybe heavy but all of them are about speed and endurance and thats what its going to come down to there isnt one "strength" event in the mix. maybe its just the powerlifter in me but everything coming down to time kinda sucks. i also dont care what events the crowds like its not about the crowds its about us. we train hard we spend tons of money and put tons of time into the sport and i think we should get something back for it. im not talking about money or a trophy im talking about sweet events and bada$$ equipment to do them on. its not speedman or endurance man its strongman.
most of us will be able to all the events and its just going to come down to time and endurance and no disrespect to any of my fellow competitors but if you cant use the weights that will be at nationals then you shouldnt be there yet wait and do it when you're strong enough. i can understand being weak in one event or having an off day in an event or 2 but you just cant finish every event you should really wait till you can. this is just my 2 cents but way to much time and endurance and not of strength.

Matt Makousky
08-16-2007, 07:58 AM
IMO strongman=odd events, powerlifting=deadlift, squat and bench keep powerlifting to the power lifters and not strongman :M:


M2

Ryan Brown
08-16-2007, 08:06 AM
these events are to standard plus its vegas lets do something off the wall.
show girl squat or silver dollar deadlift would be kick a$$
fingal finger, power stairs medley
block lift (over head)
carry medley farmers, yoke, frame or wheelbarrow
stones are great but they are at every contest do an odd object load
slot machines, blocks, sandbags, kegs, chain link, or other objects that represent vegas

or something to that effect, or hell unleash a new event on us

the current events maybe heavy but all of them are about speed and endurance and thats what its going to come down to there isnt one "strength" event in the mix. maybe its just the powerlifter in me but everything coming down to time kinda sucks. i also dont care what events the crowds like its not about the crowds its about us. we train hard we spend tons of money and put tons of time into the sport and i think we should get something back for it. im not talking about money or a trophy im talking about sweet events and bada$$ equipment to do them on. its not speedman or endurance man its strongman.
most of us will be able to all the events and its just going to come down to time and endurance and no disrespect to any of my fellow competitors but if you cant use the weights that will be at nationals then you shouldnt be there yet wait and do it when you're strong enough. i can understand being weak in one event or having an off day in an event or 2 but you just cant finish every event you should really wait till you can. this is just my 2 cents but way to much time and endurance and not of strength.


as a promoter if I've learned anything I've learned that you can't please everyone. As soon as you stick a bunch of powerlifts in the contest you will also get a bunch of complainers. Fact is people tend to like what they are good at; what will most likely result in them winning the contest. These events are efficient and will keep the contest moving at a good pace; I suspect that is one of the main considerations.

They are also very standard strongman events. They can all be heavy or light. So far we only know the weight of the stones. All test strength very well when they are sufficiently heavy.

Pete Berg
08-16-2007, 08:09 AM
I find it funny how poeple don't think there is a strength event in this meet. Can you honestly tell me with a srtaight face that a yoke that will be about 900lbs does not take strenght. I think the problem is eveyone worked so hard on static strength and counted out moving events. BTW If you have never worked kettlebells ,I think you better a least try before you think it's easy.

O.K. rant over.

Matt Makousky
08-16-2007, 08:16 AM
I am sure Harrison will jump on this thread real quick about KB.
Let the games begin lol.

Just lift it, move it and win that is all there is to it.

Pete have you done KB before, I think I may bring some over this Friday


M2

Dane Kelley
08-16-2007, 08:25 AM
as a promoter if I've learned anything I've learned that you can't please everyone. As soon as you stick a bunch of powerlifts in the contest you will also get a bunch of complainers. Fact is people tend to like what they are good at; what will most likely result in them winning the contest. These events are efficient and will keep the contest moving at a good pace; I suspect that is one of the main considerations.

They are also very standard strongman events. They can all be heavy or light. So far we only know the weight of the stones. All test strength very well when they are sufficiently heavy.

"like what they are good at" go look at what i thought would be cool events. only one "powerlift" the rest strongman events but events that you dont see at every show.

They are also very standard strongman events. key word there, standard this nationals it should be the big one with lots of exciting events and things that arent "standard"

why would you get complainers for putting powerlifts in the show?


I find it funny how poeple don't think there is a strength event in this meet. Can you honestly tell me with a srtaight face that a yoke that will be about 900lbs does not take strenght. I think the problem is eveyone worked so hard on static strength and counted out moving events. BTW If you have never worked kettlebells ,I think you better a least try before you think it's easy.

definetly takes strength but i dont see dione making it so heavy that only a handful finish
sorry i just dont see it happening. its going to all come down to speed and distance.

Matt Brouse
08-16-2007, 08:26 AM
I like the idea of facing a variety of odd events throughout the season and having us all come together at the end to line up in the more "standard" event to see whose numero uno.

It kind of levels the playing field for the big show. Say you don't have acces to a yoke, well, it might be fun to see how you line up on that event...but at nationals? The show? This way, instead of having Fingal Fingers and Car Deadlift they have events that 'more than likely' a lot of guys have tried their hand at or probably have at their gym.

That way there is not excuses.

DaveMihalov
08-16-2007, 08:27 AM
these events are to standard plus its vegas lets do something off the wall.
show girl squat or silver dollar deadlift would be kick a$$
fingal finger, power stairs medley
block lift (over head)
carry medley farmers, yoke, frame or wheelbarrow
stones are great but they are at every contest do an odd object load
slot machines, blocks, sandbags, kegs, chain link, or other objects that represent vegas

or something to that effect, or hell unleash a new event on us

the current events maybe heavy but all of them are about speed and endurance and thats what its going to come down to there isnt one "strength" event in the mix. maybe its just the powerlifter in me but everything coming down to time kinda sucks. i also dont care what events the crowds like its not about the crowds its about us. we train hard we spend tons of money and put tons of time into the sport and i think we should get something back for it. im not talking about money or a trophy im talking about sweet events and bada$$ equipment to do them on. its not speedman or endurance man its strongman.
most of us will be able to all the events and its just going to come down to time and endurance and no disrespect to any of my fellow competitors but if you cant use the weights that will be at nationals then you shouldnt be there yet wait and do it when you're strong enough. i can understand being weak in one event or having an off day in an event or 2 but you just cant finish every event you should really wait till you can. this is just my 2 cents but way to much time and endurance and not of strength.

I definately agree with you. I thought because of the venue and the fact it's Nationals there would be some cool crazy events. But oh well either way I'm still going to be out there. Thought there would be some kind of medley too, maybe a farmers and tire medley, that would've left room for a heavy deadlift or something.

Dane Kelley
08-16-2007, 08:29 AM
i'll be there for sure. i guess i just got my hopes up for an exciting show

craig kruse
08-16-2007, 08:30 AM
I guess I just don't like the yolk and tire. I'll shut up and train.

What do people think about the kettlebell press. If you don't have one should you substitute with dumbbells or buy one?

Matt Brouse
08-16-2007, 08:32 AM
I guess I just don't like the yolk and tire. I'll shut up and train.

What do people think about the kettlebell press. If you don't have one should you substitute with dumbbells or buy one?
I've done some KB work in my day and I will train on them. But I will also be doing single arm DB press.

MarshallWhite
08-16-2007, 08:35 AM
What'd Jesse say...? This is strongman not the whiner's club!!! Do you think the guys at world's could train for a safe press? How about a progressive keg squat? Or better yet a 3 tier farmer's walk? NO! Just get strong, fast, and athletic and quit worrying about it! As always the strongest will win ( I don't care if you say that the events aren't for "strength...if you lose on the yoke, whoever won was stronger....plain and simple!)

Mike Westerling
08-16-2007, 08:41 AM
All the events sound cool as hell to me! I just ordered a KB this morning so that will be an experience-lol! :mag:
-Mike

GregMonfredo
08-16-2007, 08:44 AM
I like all of the events except for the KB press. I was really hoping it would be a max log or axle. Especially since I just saved and spent 300 bucks on a 12" log just incase the overhead event was a log at nationals. and I don't really have money to drop on a heavy kettlebell now, or before then considering I have to pay for the whole trip to vegas, so there is pretty much no way I'll be able to train that event. Oh well.

I'm just waiting to see how heavy everything is going to be so I can say I don't like any of the events.

Joshua Davis
08-16-2007, 08:44 AM
What'd Jesse say...? This is strongman not the whiner's club!!! Do you think the guys at world's could train for a safe press? How about a progressive keg squat? Or better yet a 3 tier farmer's walk? NO! Just get strong, fast, and athletic and quit worrying about it! As always the strongest will win ( I don't care if you say that the events aren't for "strength...if you lose on the yoke, whoever won was stronger....plain and simple!)

:mag:

Powerlifting has it's own sport, if you consider federations it has like 100 of it's own sport. Powerlifting is powerlifting, strongman is strongman. I've never asked to have a clean and jerk in strongman - why would that be any different from adding a regulation 1rm deadlift/bench/squat to a strongman meet?

(And before anyone misunderstands me, I think that deadlifts/benches/squats all have their places in strongman, but in VARIANT events, i.e. silverdollar deads/car deads/axle deads, incline log press, yoke squats, etc)

AaRoNSnider
08-16-2007, 08:48 AM
What'd Jesse say...? This is strongman not the whiner's club!!! Do you think the guys at world's could train for a safe press? How about a progressive keg squat? Or better yet a 3 tier farmer's walk? NO! Just get strong, fast, and athletic and quit worrying about it! As always the strongest will win ( I don't care if you say that the events aren't for "strength...if you lose on the yoke, whoever won was stronger....plain and simple!)

I agree 100%!

Matt Brouse
08-16-2007, 08:55 AM
I like all of the events except for the KB press. I was really hoping it would be a max log or axle. Especially since I just saved and spent 300 bucks on a 12" log just incase the overhead event was a log at nationals. and I don't really have money to drop on a heavy kettlebell now, or before then considering I have to pay for the whole trip to vegas, so there is pretty much no way I'll be able to train that event. Oh well.

I'm just waiting to see how heavy everything is going to be so I can say I don't like any of the events.
Use a dumbbell. If you can, have someone teach you how to clean a kettlebell for efficiency's sake.

craig kruse
08-16-2007, 10:18 AM
What'd Jesse say...? This is strongman not the whiner's club!!! Do you think the guys at world's could train for a safe press? How about a progressive keg squat? Or better yet a 3 tier farmer's walk? NO! Just get strong, fast, and athletic and quit worrying about it! As always the strongest will win ( I don't care if you say that the events aren't for "strength...if you lose on the yoke, whoever won was stronger....plain and simple!)


Point taken

Scott Porter
08-16-2007, 10:26 AM
other than the kettlebell press that's about as standard as it gets IMO. Farmers, stones, tire and yoke are likely the four most popular and long running strongman events.

My thoughts exactly.

Pete Berg
08-16-2007, 10:28 AM
Pete have you done KB before, I think I may bring some over this Friday


M2
Hey Matt, thats a good idea bring some kettlebells on friday and we will mix them in.

Scott Porter
08-16-2007, 11:20 AM
I know we never have control over the events and it is strongman so quit my complaining but these are strange events to have for nationals (especially with this year going to be so big).
I am disappointed with the kettlebell press, yolk walk, and tire flip. I think these will be hard for a majority of the competitors to train for. Maybe that evens out the playing field. I don't know. Maybe I should just shut up and train harder

I am disappointed that the events aren't similar to what everyone trains and sees at each contest. I am surprised there is not a log or axel press, no carry/ drag medley, no truck pull, no deadlift.

I guess if I had a tire, yolk, and big kettlebell I would feel differently.

I guess this isn't that different than the LW Pro nationals.

The only odd event is the kettlebell clean and press.

Tire and Yoke (note the spelling) are standards. And these are easy events to train for. Anyone can get a tire to train on, free most of the time. Getting a yoke made is just as easy as getting a log made.

If you haven't been training tire or yoke, that's your fault. A carry/drag medley is boring, and truck pull is actually much harder to train for so why do you want those?

And these are events are completely different than LW Pro Nationals. The only similar event is Stones.

Ryan Rhodes
08-16-2007, 11:35 AM
I am disappointed with the kettlebell press, yolk walk, and tire flip. I think these will be hard for a majority of the competitors to train for.

You're acting like tire flipping hasn't been a staple in strongman for years. That was the first event that I and a lot of other people I know ever trained. And the yoke? Come on. If you can't man up for a freakin' yoke, then you certainly don't belong at the big show. Those two events are core, right up there with the stones and farmers.

As far as the "strange" aspect of some events- dude, everything we do is freakin' weird. That's what makes strongman interesting and keeps it continually evolving. We are the Jacks and Jills of the physical and functional. Put anything out there, and we'll find a way to move it with varying degrees of strength, speed, endurance and coordination; that's what we do.

MarshallWhite
08-16-2007, 11:48 AM
You're acting like tire flipping hasn't been a staple in strongman for years. That was the first event that I and a lot of other people I know ever trained. And the yoke? Come on. If you can't man up for a freakin' yoke, then you certainly don't belong at the big show. Those two events are core, right up there with the stones and farmers.

As far as the "strange" aspect of some events- dude, everything we do is freakin' weird. That's what makes strongman interesting and keeps it continually evolving. We are the Jacks and Jills of the physical and functional. Put anything out there, and we'll find a way to move it with varying degrees of strength, speed, endurance and coordination; that's what we do.
Excellent!! Fantastic post!

Scott Kaiser
08-16-2007, 12:16 PM
Craig if it makes you feel better I will coming up to the CHI to train alot after labor day. And if we can meet up for a couple of training sessions I will make make you a tire flippin yoke runnin mad man!

Scott Kaiser

craig kruse
08-16-2007, 01:39 PM
The only odd event is the kettlebell clean and press.

Tire and Yoke (note the spelling) are standards. And these are easy events to train for. Anyone can get a tire to train on, free most of the time. Getting a yoke made is just as easy as getting a log made.

If you haven't been training tire or yoke, that's your fault. A carry/drag medley is boring, and truck pull is actually much harder to train for so why do you want those?

And these are events are completely different than LW Pro Nationals. The only similar event is Stones.

I thought you had a tire flip, yolk walk, farmers medley. I guess I was thinking of a different contest

craig kruse
08-16-2007, 01:42 PM
You're acting like tire flipping hasn't been a staple in strongman for years. That was the first event that I and a lot of other people I know ever trained. And the yoke? Come on. If you can't man up for a freakin' yoke, then you certainly don't belong at the big show. Those two events are core, right up there with the stones and farmers.

As far as the "strange" aspect of some events- dude, everything we do is freakin' weird. That's what makes strongman interesting and keeps it continually evolving. We are the Jacks and Jills of the physical and functional. Put anything out there, and we'll find a way to move it with varying degrees of strength, speed, endurance and coordination; that's what we do.

don't tell me to man up because I was saying I didn't like the events. I just said I didn't like the events. Sorry dude.

to each their own. If some people like the tire flip, good for them. it is not a staple. go look at each contest this year and tell me how many had a tire flip and a yolk walk. tell me how many had an axel or log press and some sort of deadlift. then mouth off about a staple.

Ryan Bakke
08-16-2007, 01:48 PM
don't tell me to man up because I was saying I didn't like the events. I just said I didn't like the events. Sorry dude.

to each their own. If some people like the tire flip, good for them. it is not a staple. go look at each contest this year and tell me how many had a tire flip and a yolk walk. tell me how many had an axel or log press and some sort of deadlift. then mouth off about a staple.


Trends and staples......two very different things.


It's a YOKE walk.....wouldnt want you to go out and buy a yolk

craig kruse
08-16-2007, 01:55 PM
Trends and staples......two very different things.


It's a YOKE walk.....wouldnt want you to go out and buy a yolk

I noticed that I keep saying yolk. I saw that Scott corrected me in his post.

Yoke it is. I guess I need to go train this more.

Scott Tully
08-16-2007, 02:06 PM
I noticed that I keep saying yolk. I saw that Scott corrected me in his post.

Yoke it is. I guess I need to go train this more.

The Yoke and Tire were the first events i trained, these have traditionally been in alot of meets, Farmers and stones are fine too, Id like ot see the farmers pretty heavy so no one goes 300 feet though, the Kbell Press is fine , wont be a great visual though.

ST

Corey DuCharme
08-16-2007, 02:07 PM
I noticed that I keep saying yolk. I saw that Scott corrected me in his post.

Yoke it is. I guess I need to go train this more.

Um, while we're on the subject of spelling, it is an axle, not an axel. :D

If I was good enough to qualify for nationals, I wouldn't care if the moonwalk was an event, I'd just be happy to be there.

The back of the shirt from the last contest I was in sums it up nicely, "One inch, one pound or one second, it's all strongman!"

Dan Harrison
08-16-2007, 02:28 PM
Trends and staples......two very different things.


It's a YOKE walk.....wouldnt want you to go out and buy a yolk

I thought I was the only person who got facial tics from anger every time I saw someone spell it "yolk". We are not egg lifters!!!

Events sound great. Even though the only real use for kettlebells is to melt them down to form them into plates and bars (something USEFUL), I've helped Mariusz on one-arm lifting so I'm not worried about that event at all. I was surprised there was no deadlift, but it still takes great back strength to do a heavy yoke walk, and big fat hoe-bears like Clay will suffer on REAL POWER EVENTS!!!! J/k bro, that was harsh!! I'm putting everything I have into Wisconsin, but if that doesn't work for me, I'll be in Vegas. Oh, and for anyone complaining about Dione's event selection: Don't!!! She is a big sweety but she gets scary if you complain!!!

Matt Brouse
08-16-2007, 02:31 PM
I was totally set to burn you on that 'evbnts' slip when you were talking about spelling errors. Tic, tic, tic. You changed it as I hit reply.

Good luck this weekend Dan.

Joshua Davis
08-16-2007, 02:35 PM
Superyoke and tireflip hasn't been in alot of amateur events lately for the same reasons... variety and trends. I love those two events, in fact they are my best two events - but they have been around for so long that alot of promoters are trying new things - i.e. frame carry was really the hot ticket around the Arnold, Log Medley became really hot after WSM03, stone lift overhead was popular last year. This only represents trends and promoters who love the sport, pushing for variety.

That's not to say that classic events, i.e. Yoke, Farmers, Stones, Log, Carry and Drag, Truck Pull, Powerstairs, and Tireflip aren't "common" - they are signature events that go as far as to define the sport!

At the Amateur level:
I've competed and been to quite a few shows in Florida from 2003 until I backed off for injury last year. I've never competed in a show that didn't have one, the other, both, or even both in a medley (Florida Maxiflex 04 yoke/tire medley). Even shows that were promoted outside our training circle included BOTH the yoke and tireflip as events (Central Florida Strongman 03 and Orlando Strongest Man 06).

At the Pro Show level:
IFSA standardized the yoke, so it was present in the all 2005 championship competitions.
WSM 03 had tireflip, WSM 04 had super yoke (fridge carry), WSM 05 had super yoke (fridge carry).
The 05 WSM Super Series had yokes at Mohegan Sun, Venice Beach. There was a tireflip at the WSMSS in Poland.

Everytime I've been "special" enough to train with a professional strongman, we've trained one, the other, or both.

In short... don't neglect the staples!

Time for me to scamper off and improve my horrible stonelift skills...

Scott Markowitz
08-16-2007, 02:41 PM
don't go look at each contest this year and tell me how many had a tire flip and a yolk walk. tell me how many had an axel or log press and some sort of deadlift. then mouth off about a staple.

Just looking at the first 3 pages (out of 17) of contest results from NAS, I found the following list:
Aug 4 - Motor City Strongman Summer Challenge – Tire
July 28 - Battle of the Borders – Yoke (part of medley)
July 28 – Georgia’s Strongest Man – Yoke and tire (parts of medley)
July 21 – Teen Nats / Midwest Open – Yoke
July 21 – Southern Colorado Strongman Invitational – Tire (part of medley)
July 21 – Waseca County Fair – Tire flip
July 14 – Nebraska’s Strongest man – Tire and Yoke
July 14 – Shreve Country Style Strongman Challenge – Tire
July 14 – Westcoast Strongman III – Tire
July 7 – Overcome Strongman Challenge – Yoke
June 23 – Strongest Man in the Rockies – Tire
June 16 – Central Jersey Strongest Man – Yoke medley
June 16 – Gus Lohman Memorial III – Tire
June 16 – Strongman Slam – Tire
June 9 – Central USA – Yoke (part of medley)
June 3 – Strongest Man/Woman on Grand – Tire (part of medley)
June 2 – Circle City’s Strongest Man - Tire
May 26 – Battle of the Badass – Yoke
May 26 – Pelican Fest Strongman Challenge– Tire (part of medley)
May 20 – Defined Fitness 105k Pro-am – Yoke and Tire (parts of medley)

This does not count contests that may have had one or the other as part of a medley that was just labeled "medley" on the score sheet (or the couple of contests that wouldn't load). I think being in 20 contests over the last two and half months qualifies them as a staple. Granted, lots of them also had some sort of press and/or a deadlift, but nobody said those two weren't staples. They are. But if every contest was made up only of staples, as was said before, there'd be almost no variety. Of the contests I've done, I think only one of them didn't have one or both.

The nats events aren't necessarily the ones I'd have chosen, but I don't have a problem with them.

Matt Brouse
08-16-2007, 02:48 PM
Scott...go outside.

Brandon Clements "BC"
08-16-2007, 02:59 PM
Scott...go outside.

Matt you go outside. You have commented on this post more than anyone. Maybe you should just go train and get ready for nats.

JohnCook
08-16-2007, 03:08 PM
Matt you go outside. You have commented on this post more than anyone. Maybe you should just go train and get ready for nats.


LOL......he's joking dude.


Come on now, it's Brouse. :EB:

Jay O'Neill
08-16-2007, 03:11 PM
Oh the Tire.... I was so bad at the tire event that Jesse said, "Dude, You need to go out and get one to train with..." So I went to Les Schwaab and got one that weighs about 950. Not good training tire but is works. I got a lighter one and then My girlfriend decided to give me incentive and started my new email Address.... tireflipper@
yes very funny indeed. My point is...it is not all that hard to train for any event. I got the tires for free. and if you train them.. you work a whole bunch of core/hip and Quad muscles.
The Great Kaz once said that in his day you reported to the contest and were told the events on the day of.
There are some of us who would just like to be going to Nationals at all.

davebeers
08-16-2007, 03:34 PM
Quit whining, its gonna be a great show.

Scott Porter
08-16-2007, 03:53 PM
I thought you had a tire flip, yolk walk, farmers medley. I guess I was thinking of a different contest

In a medley we did. But we also had log clean and press, conans wheel, truck pull, and hummer tire deadlift...none of which are events at amateur nationals.

John Albrecht
08-16-2007, 04:14 PM
i have talked to a few Hw here in the Hoosier state. for the most part, undecided on how they feel about the event: if they like them or not, blah, blah, blah...........

Guess what! we'll be there with KBs on ready to compete, win, and maybe most importantly, have a good time. WE'RE IN VEGAS!!!

Some of us have been spoiled to compete in contests where the events favored us. Congratulations. Some of us have held events that fit our venue. Thank you for hosting a show. When i promoted a show i got criticism about my events. i didn't change my events and everything went great. i think that those who disliked the events stayed home. Thanks for not ruining my show, i appreciate it.

Point is, if you don't like it stay home. If your a competitor, COMPETE. Do what you do.

I think it is hard to critique a show until you have hosted one. I also know that i bought a yoke from the IL state chair for $300. SOLID equipment, fair price. Tires for free, all over the place (all you gotta do is ask around). Stones are stones. Farmers might be the most common implement to get at the cheapest price (IL state chair for about $240 give or take). Kettlebells, who knows, but as a strongman i might be a little crazy, not stupid. I'll Figure it out.

Leave the negativity at home, have fun and as I've read time and time again, "Shut up and train."

Good Luck to ALL,

Corey DuCharme
08-16-2007, 04:20 PM
Just looking at the first 3 pages (out of 17) of contest results from NAS, I found the following list:
Aug 4 - Motor City Strongman Summer Challenge – Tire
July 28 - Battle of the Borders – Yoke (part of medley)
July 28 – Georgia’s Strongest Man – Yoke and tire (parts of medley)
July 21 – Teen Nats / Midwest Open – Yoke
July 21 – Southern Colorado Strongman Invitational – Tire (part of medley)
July 21 – Waseca County Fair – Tire flip
July 14 – Nebraska’s Strongest man – Tire and Yoke
July 14 – Shreve Country Style Strongman Challenge – Tire
July 14 – Westcoast Strongman III – Tire
July 7 – Overcome Strongman Challenge – Yoke
June 23 – Strongest Man in the Rockies – Tire
June 16 – Central Jersey Strongest Man – Yoke medley
June 16 – Gus Lohman Memorial III – Tire
June 16 – Strongman Slam – Tire
June 9 – Central USA – Yoke (part of medley)
June 3 – Strongest Man/Woman on Grand – Tire (part of medley)
June 2 – Circle City’s Strongest Man - Tire
May 26 – Battle of the Badass – Yoke
May 26 – Pelican Fest Strongman Challenge– Tire (part of medley)
May 20 – Defined Fitness 105k Pro-am – Yoke and Tire (parts of medley)

This does not count contests that may have had one or the other as part of a medley that was just labeled "medley" on the score sheet (or the couple of contests that wouldn't load). I think being in 20 contests over the last two and half months qualifies them as a staple. Granted, lots of them also had some sort of press and/or a deadlift, but nobody said those two weren't staples. They are. But if every contest was made up only of staples, as was said before, there'd be almost no variety. Of the contests I've done, I think only one of them didn't have one or both.

The nats events aren't necessarily the ones I'd have chosen, but I don't have a problem with them.


Leave it to a lawyer to use facts to back up his statement.

I've been in two contests this year which have had a tire flip event. The next contest I want to enter also has a tire flip event. All three contests have different promoters and were not on Scott's list.

Mac Smith
08-16-2007, 09:28 PM
I like the event selection. Makes me think I have a fair shot at doing pretty well this year. I mean, a farmers for max distance? SCHWING!!! A yoke for 80ft by itself and a tire flip for 60' by itself tells me that they're going to be heavy. Like 800 and 1000 respectively.

So yeah, I'm hoping to do well. But if you ask Mac Smith, he'll say "Always bet on BLACK, brotha!" haha


Yes Sir!!!! :M:

Matt Brouse
08-16-2007, 09:39 PM
Matt you go outside. You have commented on this post more than anyone. Maybe you should just go train and get ready for nats.
Like John Cook said, I was joking...actually poking at a Demetri Martin joke...which apparently no one got.

And I did train today.

Love,

Brouse

Scott Markowitz
08-16-2007, 09:43 PM
Like John Cook said, I was joking...actually poking at a Demetri Martin joke...which apparently no one got.

We got it. It just wasn't funny. You almost hurt my feelings enough to go outside. With the temps around here lately, that could have been dangerous for a man my size.

And I did train today.

And I did not. I was able to quickly recover from the emotional harm you caused and remain indoors and eat ice cream and beef jerky.

Matt Brouse
08-16-2007, 10:14 PM
...ice cream and beef jerky.
You know I'm still half a fat kid...don't say those things!

jason sparks
08-16-2007, 11:02 PM
i've never touched a k-bell but man i cant wait to start!!!! i suck at yoke but i cant wait to get better, farmers for distance-huh whats that, tire? i will work at it, and stones to 380# uhhh thats heavy!!!!!!



but i will tell you all one thing!!!! im good at only one event here, but i am gonna give it hell and i will be setting prs!!!!! see you all at nats!!! :D:

Callie Marunde
08-16-2007, 11:55 PM
It doesnt matter what the events are because everything is subject to change. Best to be prepared for anything.

Callie

Brandon Clements "BC"
08-17-2007, 03:19 AM
Like John Cook said, I was joking...actually poking at a Demetri Martin joke...which apparently no one got.

And I did train today.

Love,

Brouse

I was joking to around too. But I had to rip on you because well all know Scott is a very fragile flower and we don't want him crying himself to sleep.

Kevin Cronin
08-17-2007, 06:15 PM
Has anyone made their reservations yet? I'm guessing that since the contest is at Circus Circus that's where we'll be staying, but I haven't heard anythig about a discount yet. If one is forthcoming then I want to hold off, but if not, best to just get teh reservations asap

Matt Brouse
08-17-2007, 06:26 PM
Has anyone made their reservations yet? I'm guessing that since the contest is at Circus Circus that's where we'll be staying, but I haven't heard anythig about a discount yet. If one is forthcoming then I want to hold off, but if not, best to just get teh reservations asap
I've had my reservations for a couple months. Working on the flight now.


Right on BC.

GregMonfredo
08-17-2007, 06:46 PM
I'm pretty sure there was a thread on here not too long ago with a discount code for circus circus. I'll try to find it


Edit: here you go -- http://www.marunde-muscle.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7586&highlight=circus

Matt Schumann
08-18-2007, 07:47 AM
Im thinking about doing the new england championships in October and they are doing the same events as nats... I know the weights have not been annouced yet but whats a good guess for the weight of the kettlebell for 231 and under?

also, do you think they would allow both hands to clean it?

GregMonfredo
08-18-2007, 09:09 AM
I'm not sure about the NE contest, but Willie said on the anvil that you can only use 1 hand to clean the kettlebell at nationals.

Matt Schumann
08-19-2007, 04:14 AM
oh i didnt know that. . . Jeez i have to get to the gym and figure out that clean..