natonals weights posted!

[davebeers]

http://www.nastrongmaninc.com/pdf/entries/2007%20Nats.pdf

kettlebell press----lw-80lbs, hw 105
yoke walk---------lw-700, hw 800
farmers walk-----lw 260, hw 305
tire flip------------lw 700, hw 800
atlas stone--------lw 230,260,300, 330, 360, HW-300,330,360,380,415

[DaneGarreau]

The kettlebell for the LWs is actually 80. Not much different, but alittle.

[craig kruse]

Weights look good. I am looking forward to this contest.

[GregMonfredo]

NICE! I won't bomb out on anything! Super stoked.

[Matt Brouse]

I could have just posted them last week. I guessed them all dead on.

Here we go...

[Chris Mathison]

I could have just posted them last week. I guessed them all dead on.

Here we go...
whats it like to be so awesome Matt?

[Ryan Rhodes]

Maybe it's just me, but the events (stones aside) seem kind of light for "nationals".

[Billy Wolt]

the entire contest looks light.

oh well...may the fastest man win.

[Jessejobe]

I wouldn't really think they are to light. The kettlebell weights seem light to me but everything else seems dead on for amatuers. They probably want to see more people finish events so it will be more spectator friendly. I am sure they are expecting quite the turnout for spectators.

Jesse

[CharlesDMickey]

For some of the 231's and the big heavies it will be a speed contest. I think those weights for the <200 and the 265's make a very challenging contest.

[Scott Markowitz]

For some of the 231's and the big heavies it will be a speed contest. I think those weights for the <200 and the 265's make a very challenging contest.

and for the weak big heavies. :YT:

[Elliot_Storey]

http://www.nastrongmaninc.com/pdf/entries/2007%20Nats.pdf

kettlebell press----lw-80lbs, hw 105
yoke walk---------lw-700, hw 800
farmers walk-----lw 260, hw 305
tire flip------------lw 700, hw 800
atlas stone--------lw 230,260,300, 330, 360, HW-300,330,360,380,415


I think the weights are right-on. It is obviously a more speed/endurance contest format as opposed to stronman's version of powerlifting. The kettlebell will probably have to be pressed with each arm by most people and cleaned each time; this is total body. Speed will win, but form and endurance will be necessary. A 700lb. yoke is heavy and 80 feet is far. Let's not get carried away with how fast this sport is progressing in terms of more shows having weights like this. 260 isn't bad for farmers, but it's max distance. Last year was 240 for 200 feet and only like 5 guys made it. The tire flip is pretty standard. A little luck wouldn't hurt on this one as far as good bounces and finding your grip right away, etc... The stones are the same as last year and only one guy got all five; seems about right to me. All that being said, I think the weights and events suit me very well and I am excited. I am by no means making any poduim predictions, but as a competitor, it's a nice feeling knowing that you're going to destroy the events, whether or not you destroy the competition. Only a show that is just heavy enough can give you that feeling too; nobody would feel that way if it was too light.

[Jay O'Neill]

So the heavyweight stones don't look heavy to anyone.... You must all be Stone Kings.

[davebeers]

I think the weights are right-on. It is obviously a more speed/endurance contest format as opposed to stronman's version of powerlifting. The kettlebell will probably have to be pressed with each arm by most people and cleaned each time; this is total body. Speed will win, but form and endurance will be necessary. A 700lb. yoke is heavy and 80 feet is far. Let's not get carried away with how fast this sport is progressing in terms of more shows having weights like this. 260 isn't bad for farmers, but it's max distance. Last year was 240 for 200 feet and only like 5 guys made it. The tire flip is pretty standard. A little luck wouldn't hurt on this one as far as good bounces and finding your grip right away, etc... The stones are the same as last year and only one guy got all five; seems about right to me. All that being said, I think the weights and events suit me very well and I am excited. I am by no means making any poduim predictions, but as a competitor, it's a nice feeling knowing that you're going to destroy the events, whether or not you destroy the competition. Only a show that is just heavy enough can give you that feeling too; nobody would feel that way if it was too light.
alot depends on the equipment that is used, but for most lightweights its gonna come down to a footrace on the press, yoke, and tire.

The farmers and stones will be the deciding events.

[Matt Makousky]

Should be fun, events look easier than most any LW contest I have seen this year.



M2

[Scott Porter]

260 isn't bad for farmers, but it's max distance. Last year was 240 for 200 feet and only like 5 guys made it.

Only 3 actually.

Jamie Niewojna (National Champ), Me (Runner-up), and Justin Blake (3rd).

But I did win the event by 14 seconds. :D

[ClayEdgin]

Can't please everyone I guess! Weights and events look good to me.

[Scott Porter]

Should be fun, events look easier than most any LW contest I have seen this year.



M2

You must have not seen very many.

Stones are plenty heavy for AM's since they are to 52" heights. Only Pro Nationals has been heavier and higher.

Yoke is plenty heavy. If Pro/AM's are doing 700, I'd expect Nationals to be about the same and in this case it is.

Farmers is max distance and as already stated, all but 3 LW's looked awful on farmers last year with 240 lbs. The HW's looked pretty bad with 280. Implements will be a big factor on this event naturally.

Tire is fairly light, but then the weight of the tire can be deceiving. Depends on the tread.

The press I agree is light.

[Billy Wolt]

well, i guess the obvious point is that there isn't a max effort, brute strength event...but those would probably be boring for the spectater.

that is one light kb though. they should do flips for reps :D

[Guillaume Dupuis]

kettlebell press----lw-80lbs, hw 105
yoke walk---------lw-700, hw 800
farmers walk-----lw 260, hw 305
tire flip------------lw 700, hw 800
atlas stone--------lw 230,260,300, 330, 360, HW-300,330,360,380,415

800 yoke, 305 fw, 415 stone - light? Crack kills guys... be carefull ;)

One thing I don't understand is the kettlebell. This isn't a 'buns of stell' seminar: I would think a log would make it more impressive to the crowds then a kettlebell for reps, no?

[Matt Brouse]

So the heavyweight stones don't look heavy to anyone.... You must all be Stone Kings.
Nosir! Shooting for 3, maybe 4...slow as a mofo too.

[Mike Caruso]

Atlas Stones
-five stones, of ascending weight, to platforms of descending order


What is the height of the platforms?

thanks

[Chris Dwyer]

Since MuscleDriver.com is the main sponsor it makes complete sense that there would be a kettlebell event. If they made the event too heavy, do you think a lot of us <200s are going to buy a kettlebell or make a trip to Vegas? The sponsors need to make money too and I'm happy to support them. Besides, I'm not going to complain about a light kettlebell until I've tried mine the first time. It may not be as easy as everybody thinks.

[lhprop1]

One thing I don't understand is the kettlebell. This isn't a 'buns of stell' seminar: I would think a log would make it more impressive to the crowds then a kettlebell for reps, no?

Have you seen the entry form yet? It is the "MuscleDriverUSA NAS, Inc National Championships".

Me thinks that the kettle bell event plays no small part in appeasing the sponsor. It's just a guess, though.

[Billy Wolt]

It may not be as easy as everybody thinks.

two years ago was able to c&p a 95lb relatively easy...was also able to "bottoms up" press it and do swing/flips for reps..

so yea...a 70lber is going to be a joke to all the lightweights.

[Chris Dwyer]

two years ago was able to c&p a 95lb relatively easy...was also able to "bottoms up" press it and do swing/flips for reps..

so yea...a 70lber is going to be a joke to all the lightweights.

It's 80#. I guess we'll be seing a lot of lightweights doing high rep sets then...I just hope I'm one of them! :LOL:

[benjamin d. moore]

It's actually closer to 80 since it's 36kilos. Thanks for playing Billy ;)

I do think the KB is a little light but cleaning and pressing every rep will knock some out cardiovascularly.

[Billy Wolt]

It's actually closer to 80 since it's 36kilos. Thanks for playing Billy ;)

I do think the KB is a little light but cleaning and pressing every rep will knock some out cardiovascularly.

i suppose....oh well. should be a good contest either way.

[Matt Brouse]

Yeah, the KB is listed as a C and P so efficiency will play a big role as well as "being in shape" which kind of scares me. Yep.

[Jared Enderton]

sounds like a great set-up. a little variety is good. good luck to everyone!

[Jamie McEwan]

I wonder if a snatch will be allowed on the kettlebell, or if it truly is a C&P event. Snatching it would make the event insane to watch, at least during the guys that could do it.

[Chris Dwyer]

Willie said no to snatches on the Anvil.

[Jamie McEwan]

Cool, thanks. :)

[Chris Berry]

kettle bell is a little out there for an event in my opinion but the other events sound like good weights and choices in my opinion. a couple of us went and bought a new 96lb kettle bell and we tried it out. i believe its even too light for the lightweight class unless they go for an 90 sec or longer time. i believe 10 -15 guys will finish with the same amout of reps in a 60 sec time limit. just my opinion. either way its in vegas and will be a blast

[Chris Dwyer]

Cool, thanks. :)

No problem. He said that the KB must touch the shoulder on each rep. He might post some videos on Youtube to show how he wants it done. I'll be looking out for those.

[Elliot_Storey]

Only 3 actually.

Jamie Niewojna (National Champ), Me (Runner-up), and Justin Blake (3rd).

But I did win the event by 14 seconds. :D

I just knew I was 9th with 181 feet. I didn't know that many dropped between my spot and the finish line. I agree that it depends on the implements though; I've taken my farmers 300 feet with 260 with turns at 50.

[Josh Kamins]

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[Guillaume Dupuis]

Since MuscleDriver.com is the main sponsor it makes complete sense that there would be a kettlebell event. If they made the event too heavy, do you think a lot of us <200s are going to buy a kettlebell or make a trip to Vegas? The sponsors need to make money too and I'm happy to support them. Besides, I'm not going to complain about a light kettlebell until I've tried mine the first time. It may not be as easy as everybody thinks.

I tried 80 for reps and it's funky at the end... I will admit - but I guess the ONLY rational to having this would be for the sponsors (detail that I did not read earlier). For th HWs, what's the # of reps expected to be the average: 15-20-30?

[MarkSikora]

That stuff all looks plenty heavy enough for a soon to be 40 ,short, fat, slow guy!!

And...seeing as I've never even touched a kettlebell......

I look forward to seeing all you guys destroying the events. Hopefully I can finish them....

see ya in Vegas


Mark

[Mat Maddox]

Maybe they should use this one?

http://www.kettlebells.com.au/store/64kg-Kettlebell-THE-MONSTER-p-125.html

[Justin Warren]

I was doing clean and press with an 88 lb KB today, and from the shoulder it's hardly a tricep extension. Granted, I have kind of short arms, but this isn't a real overhead event. Cleaning every rep is going to take a lot of conditioning, but there are going to be some high numbers. It could be cool as part of a press medley though.

[Smith, Andrew]

I haven't competed in a Strongman event, so I'm not one to judge, but I figured I would give you a bit of input from somebody that has messed with KBs quite a bit. We used them almost exclusively when I was grappling (BJJ). At the time I was 5'11 155lbs and was able to clean and press the 32kgs KB for sets of 8 fairly easily. I've never had great pressing strength either, so I do believe the KB will be quite light for both groups. If there's a 90sec time limit, I wouldn't negate the possibility of 15 reps per arm, easily. I will say, that my presses weren't strict presses, so if that comes into play the numbers will drop a bit, but overall that will definitely be a muscular endurance event more than anything.

[davebeers]

just got my 80lb kettlebell from muscledriver, the thing is awkward as hell. I think the ups driver blew a disk unloading it from the truck.
took it out of the box and did 10 reps in 60 sec
I'm guessing the number to beat will be 14

[Kurt Hessenbruch]

I'm guessing the number to beat will be 14

You do know Rob Orlando will be there, right? I'd bump that prediction up by ten reps minimum... seriously.

[davebeers]

You do know Rob Orlando will be there, right? I'd bump that prediction up by ten reps... seriously.
its a matter of time, not of strength.

[Kurt Hessenbruch]

its a matter of time, not of strength.

I know. One every 4+ seconds seems a little on the light side to me, but hey... I've never tried one, so my opinion doesn't mean much.

[davebeers]

I know. One every 4+ seconds seems a little on the light side to me, but hey... I've never tried one, so my opinion doesn't mean much.
yeah, its light but they had to make it that way so the 175'ers wouldn't whine ;)

[Jeff Douglas]

Is it allowed to just snatch it? If so, and if it's not too awkward to do, it might be the way to bang out some fast reps. I've never used a kettlebell though, so maybe that's too much to snatch.

[Lucjan Zolnierowski]

The KB press is Clean and press each rep and no snatching.

Good question Chris. It has to be a clean to the shoulder then press and then back to the ground. - from the anvil

[Scott Markowitz]

Just so you guys know...there is an off chance that I might find some money and be able to make it out. In anticipation of that, I actually WENT TO THE GYM today. If I am able to maintain this suicidal pace of working out TWICE a week, you guys are in trouble. :M:

[GregMonfredo]

yeah, its light but they had to make it that way so the 175'ers wouldn't whine ;)


Hey, I resent that! I was thinking it was going to be 110 ;)