carb back loading day 1

[Damon Curtis]

Originally Posted by Vincent Dizenzo

If you are dropping too much weight you are not carbing up enough after training. It's that easy. Make sure they are high gi carbs.

Will do. I did a random high carb cheat day and I seemed to normalize and gained more weight than I normally do. This is good because I do not want to lose weight. I wonder if one could seriously add much mass with this. I'm not really trying to at the moment. Sounds good for losing weight or recomp. Lots of crazy weight fluctuation with this diet for me.

[Damon Curtis]

Double post

[amen75dola]

I have noticed about 10 pounds total of weight gain and I do not feel it to be bad weight gain, I know that you have to eat your carbs till you're sick of them at night and I am finding it hard to get in enough to feel good the next day but I did last night and I feel much recovered today

Still getting that pumped feeling after eating carbs post workout shake and meals which I love!

Training has increased in overall intensity and energy levels throughout seem to be at high constant

[Vincent Dizenzo]

Originally Posted by Damon Curtis

Will do. I did a random high carb cheat day and I seemed to normalize and gained more weight than I normally do. This is good because I do not want to lose weight. I wonder if one could seriously add much mass with this. I'm not really trying to at the moment. Sounds good for losing weight or recomp. Lots of crazy weight fluctuation with this diet for me.

From what I gather, a random carb cheat day is not a good idea. You need to stick to protein and fats during the day and have your carbs in the evening. That's why Kiefer recommends prep phase to get your body used to using fats for energy versus carbs.

I have unwittingly deviated from the program a few times and each time is has had a consequence. Even working with Kiefer directly, I am glad I have a copy of the book. It's been a great reference tool for me. Not only to know what to do, but why I'm doing it.

For those of you having problems with maintaining or gaining weight, find your go to carb source. Mine is bread. I absolutely love bread. Each slice is 20 grams and I can put 'em down fast and easy. Plus there is no prep time. I do bread and I keep pretzels and flavored rice cakes around. I can tell when I'm feeling a little light and I just snack on those after my evening meals if necessary.

[amen75dola]

do fats continue in the evening?

[Eric Veca]

Just to update you guys, Im on week four of this CBL and things are going great. I also have had the minor set back of a day that I couldnt help but eat carbs for most of the meals and yes, it was felt in a bad way. Today I set a new OHP PR, feeling so much more loose and explosive during the lifts. People are saying they see the loss alot in my face fat but the scale is actually showing a slightly heavier me. Not sure why this is but Im feeling tons better physically. I have a buddy who is in his second week and is all about CBL, he should be starting to post on this thread with us soon.

[Damon Curtis]

I don't understand where things like brown rice, oats and yams fit into this plan. I am glad that I have confidence I can train carb depleted without anyissue as long as I carb up after the previous session. I like.how this is helping me get to sleep at night, however it seems to exacerbate my snoring and sleepapnea. I can only imagine the night sweats when the temp starts to rise.

[Eric Veca]

Originally Posted by Damon Curtis

I don't understand where things like brown rice, oats and yams fit into this plan. I am glad that I have confidence I can train carb depleted without anyissue as long as I carb up after the previous session. I like.how this is helping me get to sleep at night, however it seems to exacerbate my snoring and sleepapnea. I can only imagine the night sweats when the temp starts to rise.

All of those foods can be eaten once your at the loading part, after training etc. Its not training depleted though, you load so you have a high index in the tank that is used during training. It allows you to train without the chaos that carbs cause if taken before you train.

[Damon Curtis]

Originally Posted by Eric Veca

All of those foods can be eaten once your at the loading part, after training etc. Its not training depleted though, you load so you have a high index in the tank that is used during training. It allows you to train without the chaos that carbs cause if taken before you train.

I thought he recommended high gi carbs only post training

[Eric Veca]

Originally Posted by Damon Curtis

I thought he recommended high gi carbs only post training

Yeah, those also, it sounds to me like anything goes once you are at the carbing part. Directly after training, from what I am understanding, is where the hi GI carbs are used but from then on through the rest of your evening you can go with hi and low, yams, rice, muffins, whatever. Like I said, I am only going on what I think I am understanding with this. Also, has anyone else here been following the breakfast skipping on a regular basis? Iv been having the coffee with heavy cream and it feels like I am lasting on that pretty good for the 3 or so hours before the first round of protein / fat but once I hit that time it feels like I am going down hill fast and that next actual meal gets things going again.