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I have a friend who recently discovered he has a bulging disc causing severe sciatica. Has any body successfully overcome a bulging disc without surgery or expensive "decompression" from the chiro?


I recall hearing Louie Simmons of westside had some back trouble in the past that he rehabed with the help of reverse hyperextensions.....Does anybody have anymore info on this such as exercises and rehab routines that might be benificial in correcting this problem.

He also has access to an inversion table....could that provide a decompressing effect similar the chiropractors decompression table?
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I'd ask EliteFTS about this, and to have anyone who has dealt with a bulging disc to email you.

I recommend calling Louie and picking his brain about as much as you can.

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It's best if you leave a message and have him call you back, when he calls you on his own time he is much more talkative.

Best of luck for your buddy.
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I had (prob still have) herniated L5 & S1. I was about 25-28yrs old and I had terrible sciatica. The surgeon told me that many people have disk issues and donít even know it. Surgery was an option but I chose to go with lots of re-hab instead. I was going on the premise that as I age the disks will shrink and back off the sciatic never.

Anyway long story short what helped me: More ham string work, LOTS and LOTS of stretching, inversion therapy, and good old Motrin.

It's been about 12-15 yrs and I'm still going. So this may or may not be of much help but there is hope!
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Reverse hyper, press-ups (a.k.a. cobra), band traction.

Surgery should be an absolute last resort.
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whole lot of ways to fix a bulging disc. Im not so good with low back so I'll defer to more experienced heads on this.

In general the key to back issues is to decompress the spine and strengthen the muscles around it so they do the important work. hangs from a pullup bar..adding weight around your waist if necessary. Reverse hypers are good. So is anything else that increases the strength AND TONE of the lower back muscles and erectors. High rep Powercleans are good too.
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Yowch! High rep powercleans to fix a bulging disk?

I have 2 bulges and one herniation in my upper back (thoracic issues from whiplash when I was a teen). It prevented me from squatting properly for about a year. I front squatted during that time and got my upper back stronger with deadlifts and shrugs.

Depending on where the bulge is, I would specifically train the surrounding muscles without placing a load directly on them until you are strong enough. That would mean if it's lumbar bulge (I'm assuming so because of the sciatic nerve), your buddy might have some luck with lighter high rep Romanian deadlifts, reverse hypers, roman chair situps, glute hams, back extensions, and other posterior chain work.

You never "fix" a bulging disk, once it's bulged, it's bulged... but as others have said strengthen the area surrounding the bulge and your body will take the strain off the pinch.
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whole lot of ways to fix a bulging disc. Im not so good with low back so I'll defer to more experienced heads on this.

In general the key to back issues is to decompress the spine and strengthen the muscles around it so they do the important work. hangs from a pullup bar..adding weight around your waist if necessary. Reverse hypers are good. So is anything else that increases the strength AND TONE of the lower back muscles and erectors. High rep Powercleans are good too.
High-rep powercleans? Toning the erectors?

This is a serious injury consideration; if you don't think you're experienced tossing out stuff like this may not be the most helpful idea.
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From personal experience, I had a powerlifter come in to my school's clinic and become a patient of mine (acupuncture and asian bodywork therapy). This guy had a bad case of sciatica after arching his back while doing heavy bench presses. It was so bad he could barely walk. He had pain and numbness going down his left leg. I could get him significant relief from acupuncture and asian bodywork, but he would need it again after about a week. He had an MRI done and the doctor said he had significant disc degeneration at the L5-S1 junction. The best I can remember, I think it was bulging too. A doctor was telling him that he would likely need surgery, which he did not want. What ended up happening was that the doctor put him on a 6 day cycle of prednisone, which reduced the swelling and disc bulging. He also started getting chiropractic and using an inversion table at the same time. After the 6 day cycle of prednisone, he was completely pain free and able to resume normal activities. The pain did return later, however it was not anywhere near as severe. Actually it was very slight when it returned. After that he was able to control it with Asian Bodywork therapy once every 2 weeks and using the inversion table at home. I told him about the Reverse hyper machine but I don't think the gym he went to has one. Hope this helps.
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High-rep powercleans? Toning the erectors?

This is a serious injury consideration; if you don't think you're experienced tossing out stuff like this may not be the most helpful idea.

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Power cleans would be the worst choice for a bad back!
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High rep cleans would be good AFTER the injury has healed. I think he was on the right track, just a bit premature.
I f'd my back up pretty good earlier this year and then started to train again too soon and hurt it even worse. I had such sciatic pain that I couldn't walk for a few days... well, on the 2nd through 4th days I made it to the couch from my bed (about 8 steps) and that was it. What I learned was time, ice, lots of anti inflamatories, muscle relaxers (really help clear inflamation out of soft tissue), and later, an inversion table work wonders.
I did reverse hypers when it was possible, but I used only my own leg weight for resistance at first. This hurt plenty so don't push too far too fast. I also went to an active release specialist and he was able to really stretch out the muscles which helped A TON! Don't be cheap with an injury like this. I have no health insurance so I couldn't go to a doctor or anything. He'll probably just tell you to stay off it and recommend surgery anyway... Find someone (chiro/ AR specialist) that can help stretch the muscles out, and realign bones, and go for a few sessions, then do the stretching on your own for a while, then go back to him for another treatment and gauge your own progress based on the earlier visits.
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